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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-01-2017, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
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Question Should I separate them?

I live alone and have two fixed cats - one 4 year old female, and one 7 month old male. I got 7mo about 3 months ago and pretty much have not been able to integrate them due to aggressive behavior. Last week, they both came back from being boarded over the holidays and at the boarder's house, they were together with other cats. They came home, and I kept them together and other than 1-2 tiny batting sessions from 4yo to 7mo, they were fine. Well, I think I must have left them alone together too soon because 3 days later, they were chasing and chasing and 4yo was hissing, so I started separating them most of the time again.

Since, I've tried having them together when I'm home and able to supervise / play /re-direct with 7mo. I do about 3 long playing sessions with 7mo per day, and he has lots of interactive toys, etc. I play with 4yo when she wants to, but she isn't as playful as 7mo.

Okay- so here's my question. when they are together now, it inevitably ends with 7mo chasing 4yo and her running away and hissing, or 4yo will walk over to 7mo and bat him. 7mo takes the hint when 4yo instigates it but does NOT take the hint when he chases her and she hisses. Should I keep them separated until there's no hissing? or, is that not serious enough to separate over? Will it escalate? I try to redirect every time and use relaxed voice and do positive reinforcement. I'm just not sure if I"m making it worse by not giving them a chance to get used to each other.

Thoughts, feedback, advice are very welcome!! Thank you!
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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-03-2017, 11:15 AM
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I have never had experience with this but what I have heard and read is that you should not be so fast when introducing them to each other. Some cats may take time before they get used to each other while others kick it off from the start.

If it gets worse, you can separate the two cats into different rooms. Each cat should get their special room where they feel at home and where you have their food, water and litter. You can then start taking one cat to the other cat's room so that they can smell around and get used to each other's scent. After this, try re-introducing them to each other and see if their is any progress.
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First of all realize that your 7 mo. is in his "terrible teens" which can last up to a year old and beyond. It's a very rambunctious, bratty stage where he gets his jollies by chasing your 4 y.o., attacking and biting. I've just gone through many months with my 1-1/2 y.o. Devon male "Fitty" who was chasing, attacking and biting my 12 y.o. Devon male "Zuba" (both cats neutered). If your 7 m.o. is not neutered, that's your #1 priority. Young males particularly are in the stage where they're trying to establish and be boss of their territory, which they do up to 2 yrs. So, I wouldn't interfere if your girl is standing up to him, but if he starts fighting, biting hard on her neck to make marks or draw blood, then he should be separated. Fitty got many 15 min. or so time-outs in a dark guest bathroom when he did that. When let out, sometimes he went right back at fighting, so he got another T-O, but eventually he did desist and behave himself a good part of the time. It's kinda funny, because Zuba getting back when he bullied Alkee when she was still alive, and she didn't really like to get into a tussle with him or stand up to him, but learned to run to me to sit beside me or at my feet or in my lap, as Zuba wouldn't bother her then. They were cuddle/grooming buddies most of the time tho, and now Zuba is the same with Fitty.....recently I've let them sleep together and groom each other but when Fitty was in his bratty stage, he slept in another room, or stayed apart if I had to go out and couldn't supervise them. What you want to avoid at all cost is a very serious all-out no-holds- barred, fur-flying fight especially with any injuries. One like that can destroy any hope of an amicable relationship between them. So keep up your good work with the interactive toys to drain off his energy, and remember that old phrase, "this too will pass". All the best!

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What are their names, btw?
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Thanks so much for your reply! Yeah, I got Grover (the youngster) about 2.5 months ago and they've been separated for all of that time. We can finally be in the same room all that the same time, but if I'm not on constant behavior duty, it inevitable leads to some hissing. We'll see how it goes...
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What are their names, btw?
Boomer is my older cat and Grover is the younger. Grover was named by his foster Mom before I adopted him and it fit him so well I didn't change it
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First of all realize that your 7 mo. is in his "terrible teens" which can last up to a year old and beyond. It's a very rambunctious, bratty stage where he gets his jollies by chasing your 4 y.o., attacking and biting. I've just gone through many months with my 1-1/2 y.o. Devon male "Fitty" who was chasing, attacking and biting my 12 y.o. Devon male "Zuba" (both cats neutered). If your 7 m.o. is not neutered, that's your #1 priority. Young males particularly are in the stage where they're trying to establish and be boss of their territory, which they do up to 2 yrs. So, I wouldn't interfere if your girl is standing up to him, but if he starts fighting, biting hard on her neck to make marks or draw blood, then he should be separated. Fitty got many 15 min. or so time-outs in a dark guest bathroom when he did that. When let out, sometimes he went right back at fighting, so he got another T-O, but eventually he did desist and behave himself a good part of the time. It's kinda funny, because Zuba getting back when he bullied Alkee when she was still alive, and she didn't really like to get into a tussle with him or stand up to him, but learned to run to me to sit beside me or at my feet or in my lap, as Zuba wouldn't bother her then. They were cuddle/grooming buddies most of the time tho, and now Zuba is the same with Fitty.....recently I've let them sleep together and groom each other but when Fitty was in his bratty stage, he slept in another room, or stayed apart if I had to go out and couldn't supervise them. What you want to avoid at all cost is a very serious all-out no-holds- barred, fur-flying fight especially with any injuries. One like that can destroy any hope of an amicable relationship between them. So keep up your good work with the interactive toys to drain off his energy, and remember that old phrase, "this too will pass". All the best!
THANK YOU for your response! Grover (the 7mo) is neutered, thankfully, so we've taken care of that. Framing it around this terrible teens mindset is very helpful, partly because like you said, I know it'll eventually pass! Boomer, the 4yo, wants nothing to do with him at this point and bats him (and sometimes hisses) every time he gets too close. True to cat form, Grover sometimes takes that negative reinforcement as proof that he should continue the behavior But, to his credit, a lot of times, he does take the hint and back off. He just seems so interested in her and really wants to play, I think. Thankfully, his behavior towards her is more playful, rather than aggressive (biting, etc), but no matter his intention, it scares Boomer and she reacts (and then that impression sticks so the next time she's even more wary/likely to instigate). Perhaps I'll try to back off a tiny bit and see if Boomer can stand up to him a bit more (without letting it escalate too much) - and like you said, I can look forward to him calming down a bit in the next year or so...

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