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Old 10-29-2007, 06:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Just a tip...when you to go these cat food websites that are big on flash and little on substance and can't find their ingredients anywhere...a good resource is Petfooddirect.com. They include ingredients on almost all the foods listed.
Thanks for the tip! Well in that case, Flaked Fish and Shrimp Feast contains "OCEAN FISH, FISH BROTH, SHRIMP, TRICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, VEGETABLE OIL, GUAR GUM, VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS (E, A, D3), SODIUM NITRITE (TO PROMOTE COLOR RETENTION), ZINC SULFATE, THIAMIN HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B1), MANGANESE SULFATE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT."

I'm curious though, because the can labels they show are different from the ones I buy. I've never seen the Friskies logo on there before. I was thinking it might be a Canadanian or European version, but it very clearly says "America's Pet Store on the Web!" Maybe it's the new design and it just hasn't hit my area yet?

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Old 10-29-2007, 07:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Just saw Newman's Own in Market Basket (a local NH/MA grocery store chain). The first place I saw it was Stop & Shop. Not thrilled with the soy in the dry food, but I'd rather feed it than by-products, corn or wheat (or wheat gluten). If you need to shop in a grocery store and can get this, I'd take it over all the other standard grocery store brands. Here's the ingredients:

Wet:

Chicken & Brown Rice:

Organic Chicken, Sufficient Water for Processing, Ocean Whitefish, Brown Rice, Flaxseed, Oat Bran, Guar Gum, Dried Kelp, Tricalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, Carrageenan, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), Choline Chloride, Taurine.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Crude Protein................10.0% (min)
Crude Fat.......................7.0% (min)
Crude Fiber....................1.0% (max)
Moisture........................78.0% (max)
Ash...............................2.0% (max)
Magnesium.....................0.025% (max)
Taurine..........................0.06% (min)

Chicken & Salmon:

Organic Chicken, Sufficient Water for Processing, Salmon, Ocean Whitefish, Brown Rice, Oat Bran, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Dried Kelp, Tricalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, Carrageenan, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Aicd Chelate, Copper Amino Aicd Chelate, Manganese Amino Aicd Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Bitoin), Taurine, Choline Chloride.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Crude Protein................10.0% (min)
Crude Fat.......................6.0% (min)
Crude Fiber....................1.0% (max)
Moisture........................78.0% (max)
Ash...............................2.0% (max)
Magnesium.....................0.025% (max)
Taurine..........................0.06% (min)

Turkey:

Organic Turkey, Sufficient Water for Processing, Chicken, Ocean Whitefish, Brown Rice, Oat Bran, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Dried Kelp, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, Carrageenan, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Aicd Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate, Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), Taurine, Choline Chloride.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Crude Protein................10.0% (min)
Crude Fat.......................7.0% (min)
Crude Fiber....................1.0% (max)
Moisture........................78.0% (max)
Ash...............................2.0% (max)
Magnesium.....................0.025% (max)
Taurine..........................0.06% (min)

Turkey & Vegetable:

Turkey & Brown Rice: Organic Turkey, Turkey Broth, Turkey Liver, Brown Rice, Sweet Potatoes, Tricalcium Phosphate, Oat Bran, Cranberries, Flaxseed, Dried Kelp, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Potassium Chloride, Sea Salt, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Choline Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, B12, D3 Supplements, Thiamin Mononitrate, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement).

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Crude Protein...................9.0% (min)
Crude Fat.........................7.0% (min)
Crude Fiber......................1.0% (max)
Moisture.........................78.0% (max)



Dry Adult:

INGREDIENTS:

Organic Chicken, Chicken Meal, Organic Soybean Meal, Organic Sorghum, Fish Meal, Organic Peas, Organic Brown Rice, Organic Millet, Organic Rice, Chicken Fat (Naturally Stabilized with Mixed Tocopherols [a Source of Vitamin E]), Organic Oats, Organic Barley, Organic Flax Seed, Organic Canola Oil, Chicken Liver, Organic Carrots, Cranberries, DL-Methionine, Dicalcium Phosphate, Sea Salt, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Parsley, Choline Chloride, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (Source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (Source of Chelated Iron), Vitamin E Supplement, Manganese Amino Acid Complex (Source of Chelated Manganese), Copper Amino Acid Complex (Source of Chelated Copper), Niacin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Lecithin, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Cobalt Proteinate (Source of Chelated Cobalt), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Rosemary Extract, Folic Acid, Biotin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Rosemary Extract, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite, Dehydrated Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dehydrated Bacillus Subtilis Fermentation Product, Dehydrated Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product, Dehydrated Bifidobacterium Longum Fermentation Product, Dehydrated Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product.

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:

Crude Protein................32.0% (min)
Crude Fat......................16.0% (min)
Crude Fiber.....................3.0% (max)
Moisture........................10.0% (max)
Ash................................6.5% (max)
Taurine..........................0.20% (min)
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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My Fancy Feast Fish & Shrimp Feast looks almost exactly the same except it has the checkerboard logo, which is Purina (and it says Purina on the back). Isn't that weird? Exact same ingredients.
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That Newmans Own stuff doesn't look bad at all does it.

I'm always on the hunt for OKish supermarket food in case I ever get stuck. I can get Iams here and Fancy Feast. Toby doesn't really like Fancy Feast and he has never had Iams (I worry about their ethics). I've tried a Marks And Spencers own brand cat food recently - in an emergency the ingredients aren't bad at all. Toby wouldn't touch it.

Whiskas is his all time favourite of course but its not a good food at all (hence the 'hamburger' title )
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My Fancy Feast Fish & Shrimp Feast looks almost exactly the same except it has the checkerboard logo, which is Purina (and it says Purina on the back). Isn't that weird? Exact same ingredients.
That's because both Friskies and Fancy Feast are part of the Nestle Purina group. I don't know if they bought Friskies recently, or if maybe the Fancy Feast products are part of different divisions on different continents... but it's all part of the same - horrendous - group of brands: http://www.purina.com/products/brands.aspx
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Friskies and Fancy Feast are part of the Nestle Purina group. I don't know if they bought Friskies recently, or if maybe the Fancy Feast products are part of different divisions on different continents... but it's all part of the same - horrendous - group of brands
Yeah, I was thinking that the Friskies logo was more of a disclaimer than anything.

I have to agree that Fancy Feast isn't that great of a brand. I checked the labels of the flavors I have on hand, and a couple of them have by-products as the first ingredient. The only reasons I still use it are because it's the only wet food my cats will consistently eat, and they have grain-free flavors, which I need for my IBD cat.
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Well, even my vet says that sometimes the best food for your cat is what they'll actually eat.
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Well, even my vet says that sometimes the best food for your cat is what they'll actually eat.
My husband says something similar: "The healthy food isn't actually healthier for them if they aren't eating it."
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Well, even my vet says that sometimes the best food for your cat is what they'll actually eat.
Exactly. And people should never feel bad about giving their furbabies 'non premium' cat food if they refuse the other stuff.

I'm always fighting Toby to get him to eat the darn natures:menu because I like the ingredients. One of these days though I may have to admit defeat however apart from one variety which would be a real shame. Thankfully he hasn't ever not eaten the Prarie so at least he is consistently eating at least one premium brand.

Of course if Toby had his own way he would be eating nothing but Whiskas (ewwwww .... nasty, nasty stuff.)
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The twins get the good stuff. Their favorite is Granny's Pot Pie, but they also like Turducken. Heck, they'll eat anything. Even Cleo liked the Turducken and she'll snack on the Granny's Pot Pie between my putting the saucer down and letting the babies out. But if I give it to her as a meal, she won't eat it.

Charlee's coat is as silky and thick as Cali's now.

If I leave the good stuff on the counter for Cleo to eat during the day, sometimes she'll eat it, sometimes not.

It's hard sometimes to get Cinderella to eat at all.
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