Havahart "easy-set" mod - Page 2

lyle · 01-25-2012, 09:52 AM

Everything but the tubing was just scrap laying around. Using it gives me the opportunity to tell my wife: "See, I told you it would be useful, aren't you glad I didn't throw it away?" And then I get the look. I always get the look.

Whaler · 01-25-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lyle

Everything but the tubing was just scrap laying around. Using it gives me the opportunity to tell my wife: "See, I told you it would be useful, aren't you glad I didn't throw it away?" And then I get the look. I always get the look.

that made me totally crack up lyle!

Nora B · 01-29-2012, 11:00 AM

This is amazing and incredibly well done Lyle! I especially like the aluminum covering the wooden dowels cause I bleach traps and anything else with use with feral routinely (I do bottle babies & clean up - just no more full ferals - LOL). I doubt havahart monitors this site but I bet you could email them - probably you won't get money or invention credit but you might maybe get some support for the cats you car for? extra traps, donations that sort of thing???

For what it is worth, my husband gives me the look - I always get the look as well.

lyle · 01-29-2012, 01:40 PM

I sort of doubt that Havahart monitors as well. They should, of course. If there is a better cat issues related forum out there I sure don't know about it. What with legal issues in the States being what they are, my guess is that they might be a bit squeamish about appearing to be using someone else's idea (I don't know about stuff like that). In any case, it's folks who post on this site that should be the people that companies like Havahart are paying attention to (ie what they like, what they want).

Ritzpg · 04-25-2012, 11:07 AM

I am trapping tonight and tomorrow with Havahart Model 1090. This is "new technology"; you lift the handle to back of trap and (supposedly) the handle locks into place.
Problem is the lock doesn't stay. I know I have to tweak something; but what exactly do I tweak. Tweak sometimes is as simply as bending something or other. My previous Model 1090 was stolen, and I remember having the same problem. But I don't remember how we fixed it. I am very mechanically challenged (though I have TNRd over 30 cats) but have been using the older (simplier) models.
Thanks a lot.
http://www.havahart.com/resource/upl...structions.pdf

lyle · 04-25-2012, 05:12 PM

The Havaheart model that I have and modified is the 1085. It is larger than your model (no big deal), but it is non-collapsable.

The biggest difference that I think could affect the operation is that your model 1090 is "collapsable". It has been my experience that the collapsable models (Havaheart and others) are not ridged enough. That would cause it to be difficult to set and remain set as the frame/cage deforms too easily.

Anyway that is my opinion based on my experience with these traps.

As a first effort, you may want to try to square up and stiffen the cage. I wouldn't mess with the rods and cables 'till the cage was stiffened.

Whaler · 04-25-2012, 08:58 PM

have you contacted havahart? perhaps someone from the company can walk you through any adjustments/modifications that you need to make.

i agree with you lyle, i have always felt that the collapsible models are too weak. although, that may just be since i am not all that gentle with the traps in between use.

lyle · 04-26-2012, 01:04 AM

Whaler, you have more faith in the company responding than I do, but a good suggestion.

The non-colapsable model(s) are pretty sturdy and rigid, but even they have a "hair trigger" (a good thing I suppose) and even with them it doesn't take much to throw the delicate tripping mechanism out of whack. There doesn't appear to be much in the way of end-user adjustments that can be made.

Ritzpg · 04-26-2012, 09:45 AM

Thanks for responding; at least I more or less know it's Them, not Me.
PS: did trap one cat this morning in the older model.

lyle · 04-26-2012, 10:50 AM

Good. Glad it went well.

Yeah, it's them. Don't be down on the company too much though. They're prob just trying to fill a niche with the collapsables. For sure they're easier to store, etc and maybe they'd be ok if you just used them occasionally. But they are a bugger to set if they get out of alignment and they get out of alignment too easily.

If you do much trapping (you mentioned 30 cats) you might consider the model 1085 or one of the other non-colapsable models. The Easy-Set has been a good feature too, but prob just with the non-colapsables. I'm very satisfied with mine and I'm hard to please.

04-25-2012, 11:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ritzpg Tom Cat Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: near Washington, DC Posts: 360	Havahart Setting Handle Doesn't Lock into Place: URGENT I am trapping tonight and tomorrow with Havahart Model 1090. This is "new technology"; you lift the handle to back of trap and (supposedly) the handle locks into place. Problem is the lock doesn't stay. I know I have to tweak something; but what exactly do I tweak. Tweak sometimes is as simply as bending something or other. My previous Model 1090 was stolen, and I remember having the same problem. But I don't remember how we fixed it. I am very mechanically challenged (though I have TNRd over 30 cats) but have been using the older (simplier) models. Thanks a lot. http://www.havahart.com/resource/upl...structions.pdf

04-25-2012, 05:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
lyle Cat Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan (burb of Detroit) Posts: 227	The Havaheart model that I have and modified is the 1085. It is larger than your model (no big deal), but it is non-collapsable. The biggest difference that I think could affect the operation is that your model 1090 is "collapsable". It has been my experience that the collapsable models (Havaheart and others) are not ridged enough. That would cause it to be difficult to set and remain set as the frame/cage deforms too easily. Anyway that is my opinion based on my experience with these traps. As a first effort, you may want to try to square up and stiffen the cage. I wouldn't mess with the rods and cables 'till the cage was stiffened. Last edited by lyle; 04-25-2012 at 05:16 PM.

04-25-2012, 08:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Whaler Cat Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: connecticut Posts: 231	have you contacted havahart? perhaps someone from the company can walk you through any adjustments/modifications that you need to make. i agree with you lyle, i have always felt that the collapsible models are too weak. although, that may just be since i am not all that gentle with the traps in between use. __________________ "In studying the traits and dispositions of the so-called lower animals, and contrasting them with man's, I find the result humiliating to me." --Mark Twain

01-25-2012, 09:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
lyle Cat Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan (burb of Detroit) Posts: 227	Everything but the tubing was just scrap laying around. Using it gives me the opportunity to tell my wife: "See, I told you it would be useful, aren't you glad I didn't throw it away?" And then I get the look. I always get the look.

01-29-2012, 11:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nora B Tom Cat Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 301	This is amazing and incredibly well done Lyle! I especially like the aluminum covering the wooden dowels cause I bleach traps and anything else with use with feral routinely (I do bottle babies & clean up - just no more full ferals - LOL). I doubt havahart monitors this site but I bet you could email them - probably you won't get money or invention credit but you might maybe get some support for the cats you car for? extra traps, donations that sort of thing??? For what it is worth, my husband gives me the look - I always get the look as well.

01-29-2012, 01:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
lyle Cat Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan (burb of Detroit) Posts: 227	I sort of doubt that Havahart monitors as well. They should, of course. If there is a better cat issues related forum out there I sure don't know about it. What with legal issues in the States being what they are, my guess is that they might be a bit squeamish about appearing to be using someone else's idea (I don't know about stuff like that). In any case, it's folks who post on this site that should be the people that companies like Havahart are paying attention to (ie what they like, what they want).

04-26-2012, 01:04 AM	#18 (permalink)
lyle Cat Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan (burb of Detroit) Posts: 227	Whaler, you have more faith in the company responding than I do, but a good suggestion. The non-colapsable model(s) are pretty sturdy and rigid, but even they have a "hair trigger" (a good thing I suppose) and even with them it doesn't take much to throw the delicate tripping mechanism out of whack. There doesn't appear to be much in the way of end-user adjustments that can be made.

04-26-2012, 09:45 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ritzpg Tom Cat Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: near Washington, DC Posts: 360	Thanks for responding; at least I more or less know it's Them, not Me. PS: did trap one cat this morning in the older model.

04-26-2012, 10:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
lyle Cat Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan (burb of Detroit) Posts: 227	Good. Glad it went well. Yeah, it's them. Don't be down on the company too much though. They're prob just trying to fill a niche with the collapsables. For sure they're easier to store, etc and maybe they'd be ok if you just used them occasionally. But they are a bugger to set if they get out of alignment and they get out of alignment too easily. If you do much trapping (you mentioned 30 cats) you might consider the model 1085 or one of the other non-colapsable models. The Easy-Set has been a good feature too, but prob just with the non-colapsables. I'm very satisfied with mine and I'm hard to please.

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