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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-05-2014, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
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Toby doesn't drink water. Concerned about future health.

The only water Toby get is from his food, plus what I add. Toby has absolutely zero thirst drive.

He gets about 1/4 cup canned, twice a day. (500 Kcal seem to be what a cat his size should get). At 70% water that's 2.8 oz. I add about another 1/4 - 1/2 cup water on top; any more than that and he won't finish his food or the added water.

So, on a good day, if he finishes all his food and water, this 14 lb cat get maybe 10 oz of water. I read they should drink about 1 oz for every pound of weight. I If I give him only the canned he'll eat more of it, thus getting more water, but anything over the 500 Kcal (1/2 cup) and he starts getting bigger.

I've tried fountains, including a recommended one. No help. He's not afraid of it, he just doesn't care. He'll even walkk right up to it and put his nose to the water but that's it.

I'm concerned about his long term health with only averaging 8 oz or less per day. Yes he'l drink canned tuna water diluted in water but I can't give him a diet of that every day.

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Wow, 10 oz. of water a day sounds like a LOT! Some cats on wet food drink very little. Where did you read that 1 oz. for every pound tidbit?

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My little guy who was very young when I got him didn't drink for the first five months, even now, he doesn't drink much and has a funny way of drinking. My littlest girl also hardly drinks. If he was thirsty he would drink. I would worry too much, as long as he's eating his wet food and having regular bowel movements.
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I really don't know how much exactly a cat should have per day (I feel like this is something I should know...) but according to several different articles I just looked at, it seemed like 10 oz was the average recommended number.

Hmm. I was going to suggest a water fountain, as I got one just last Wednesday and 2 out of my 4 love it, but like you said, he's not interested. My cat goes nuts whenever I have a glass of water for myself with sticking his head in it and drinking, but that would probably just encourage bad behavior! Maybe it's worth a shot?

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I'm looking at the bottle of water next to me. There's no way all three of my girls combined drink 10 oz. a day.

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I'm confused....he's getting 4 oz of canned food a day? And that's 500 calories? What food is that...at best a 5.5 oz can is between 200-250 calories, most being closer to 200. Or is he getting dry too?

With a caloric need of 500 cal/day, he should be eating 2 1/3 cans per day (using 215 cal/5.5 oz can). That would be 12.8 oz...which would be 9 oz of water.

If you're trying to make up for feeding dry...that's the inherent problem...it's virtually impossible to do.


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Sorry, my bad memory. I meant to say about 250 kcal per day. - I've read estimates of anywhere from 20 to 30 kcal per lb. of body weight

EVO 95 has about 504 kcal per 13.2 oz can. He gets about a little less than half a can (any more than that and he starts getting bigger).
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Thanks all. Silly me, I listened to my vet, who as we know, may be a fine vet, are usually under-trained in nutrition.

I should have researched a bit more. I guess I should have searched a bit better first. Yes, the 7-8 oz of water (including wet food content) seems to be plenty based on my reading. This might also expainw he never drink any additional from his water bowl or fountain.

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OK...good. It didn't even occur to me to question the 500 cal/day requirement as Kobi has been eating about 400 (due to malabsorption), figured maybe Toby's energy level and metabolism are off the charts.


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As long as he's got a shiny coat, bright eyes, and eliminates with no problems I wouldn't worry too much.

If you're adding water to his food and he's eating canned I think he's getting enough to cover his needs.
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