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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 05:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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Very urgent problem

My cat is sick with fluid building up in his chest and abdomen and the
cause isn't known the tests would have ran into hundreds of dollars with
treatment for it doubling and then tripling but he seems like he isn't in
any pain. The only reason we took him to the vet at all was because he
had lost weight and his coat wan't looking too good and one morning he
didn't eat anything. We had just had our other cat put to sleep last week
because she had gotten weak and had trouble moving and we didn't want
to see her suffer. We would have had him put to sleep already if he was
suffering but he seems fine, he will run as fast as a kitten when a can of
food is opened and he will eat but slowly, usually stopping for about 5
minutes after each teaspoon size portion of canned tuna catfood.

The problem now is that he has eaten a good enough amount of food that
it should be moving through him but it has not, his litter box only has
urine spots in it and there are no messes anywhere else in the house.
Its been 5 or more days that he hasn't had a bowel movement and I'm
so worried I don't know what I can do for him anymore. Does anyone
know of anything I can do for him?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 06:10 PM
 
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Does anyone know of anything I can do for him?
YES! You can take him to the vet.

A cat that hasn't had a bowel movement on its own in 5 days or more will NOT have one without a visit to the vet.

Also, X-ray and bloodwork to find out why there is fluid buildup does NOT cost hundreds of dollars.
It is very easy and simple to find out where fluid buildup comes from.

If you refuse to spend money on healthcare for your pets, please just say so. But please know that there is nothing, absolutely nothing, anyone can do for your cat on a message board, not even a licensed veterinarian. To get the veterinary attention your cat so desperately needs you must take your cat to the vet.
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post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 06:31 PM
 
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I also think you should call the vet about the lack of bowel movements.

I do believe that it can be VERY expensive to have all sorts of tests run on animals. I know my vet charges $100 just for a standard bloodpanel. Add to that ascites checks and stuff and it can get expensive.

I'm sorry you're having all these problems with your kitty, but you really should at least call the vet about the lack of bowel movements.

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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 06:34 PM
 
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I agree 100%!

Only a vet can help. It may turn out to be something that can be easily and inexpensively remedied if treated now, but run much higher if delayed.

Please help your kitty ASAP! I know you would never intentionally let your cat suffer, and animals can be in pain without showing even the slightest indication to their owners.

Please let us know how the vet visit goes. *healing hugs to kitty* and also *healing hugs to you* over the loss of your other kitty and concern for this kitty.
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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
 
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Already been to the Vet

Thanks for the support. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear that he had
already been to a vet and the vet didn't do anything to help him for
the fluid building up in his chest and abdomen. He did take an x-ray
that showed there was a lot of fluid and all he said was that for it to
have gotten this bad means there is something else wrong and tests
would be very expensive. We would have had him put to sleep then
but he didn't seem to be in any pain so we didn't. Mr. Cat is 12 - 15
years old also so I don't expect him to live to be alot older no matter
what treatment is done. I just wanted to see if anyone had any ideas
or suggestions for me because I know that he will start to suffer if
he can't have a bowel movement and I will have him put to sleep if
he is suffering which he doesn't seem to be right now. I hope this
clarifies the situation a little more.
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 10:46 PM
 
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You may want to call the vet and request his/her advice. Perhaps they could perform an inexpensive bowel cleansing just to give relief in that area.

He is possibly lonely for his house mate that you lost recently. House mates that have lived together for a long time will go through a mourning period very frequently. This won't explain the fluid build-up, however.

He is not a young kitty anymore, and if you are not content with what your vet said, can you seek a 2nd opinion from another vet? Regardless, it is worth the time and effort to make a phone call.

Other than that, with a kitty that age, and (almost) everyone on the forum not qualified to offer any medical advice, the decision will have to be one that you make.

I am so sorry you are going through this so soon after the loss of your other baby...((hugs)) to all of you.

Please let us know how it goes...
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-19-2005, 11:33 PM
 
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I have to add that the most common causes of ascites are heart disease, liver disease and cancer.

A simple X-ray shows the condition of the heart and tells the vet whether the fluid buildup is caused by heart disease.

Liver disease is easily seen in the resullts of a chemistry profile.

Cancer that would cause ascites can quite often be diagnosed based on the results of a physical exam, a simple X-ray, and possibly some bloodwork. More sophisticated diagnostic work isn't always necessary.

None of these tests is prohibitively expensive to make diagnostic work impossible.

It boggles the mind why any vet would not want to perform diagnostic work on a sick animal - unless the client expressly tells the vet he/she doesn't want to pay for any diagnostic work and neither diagnostic work nor treatment of any kind will be considered for the sick pet.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-20-2005, 01:32 AM Thread Starter
 
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The first vet wanted to do all those things but refered us to another vet
who was an emergency vet because he wanted results that night and
not have to wait for the next day. The emergency vet actually told me
that Mr. Cat wants to die and should be put to sleep because his fluid
build up can't be treated and even if it is drained whatever caused it
is already in its final stages. That vet never mentioned liver disease.

Basically what the emergency vet said regarding money was that the
tests would be in the hundreds without any treatment and that any
treatment would end up in the thousands only to give him a week or
two more that would be very painful for him. Since then he has not
been suffering and has been acting like his self with the only real
problems being eating slow and not having any bowel movements.
He urinates in his litter box which is located up a full flight of stairs
from the living room where he spends most of his time.
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-20-2005, 06:17 AM
 
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More nonsense.

First of all, ER vets charge many more times the price normal vets charge during regular office hours. The only time going to an ER vet makes sense is when a pet's life is in immediate danger and lifesaving measures to save the pet's life can't wait.

Also, as far as some vets are concerned, the life of an older pet has no value. They are like the physicians who don't care enough to provide quality health care for elderly patients.

However, all this still goes back to one simple fact. If an owner tells the vet don't diagnose, don't treat, because money will not be spent on the pet, that's exactly what the vet will do. The vet can't do anything else because his/her hands are tied.
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-20-2005, 05:00 PM
 
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My husband had a cat once that was diagnosed with FIP and he had fluid build up in his abdomen. They said there was nothing that could be done except for some vitamins. He was eventually put to sleep a week or so later when he stopped eating. He had lost weight and acted sluggish, but his tummy was all poofed out. I don't know if your cat could have something similar. I would suggest a second opinion from a different vet. You could always just call and see if they think it would help to bring your cat in or not.
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