Originally Posted by Heather Sharada
That should be a lovely litter - Has Samira had kittens before and is the tabby boy mitted or pointed.
My Birman girl Sharada Once Upon A Dream - called "Emma" - has just been mated to a Ragdoll. Before you throw your hands up in horror she is part of an approved Ragdoll breeding program and is taking her most wonderful "pink lilac" colour to see if it is possible to improve the lilac colour in Ragdolls. Over here they mostly look pale blue.
With the program her progeny will be generation 1 and they in turn will be mated to seal generation 1 kittens that are by a chocolate point Birman boy and produce another generation 1 to create the foundation - then using only pure bred Ragdolls it will take 4 generations before they can be called Ragdolls again.
It will take a lot of time to get there but hopefully selecting for type and markings being a secondary consideration the breeder will have success. The white markings on Birmans are recessive in nature and on the Ragdolls dominant.
Emma will be desexed and re-homed with one of her babies after this litter.....she has left some lovely Birmans and hopefully as she always leave huge kittens she will also help with size in the Raggies.
The male is a colorpoint.
Yes, this will be her third litter. Here are some of here offsprings from earlier litters:
S*Dragonfire Yuffie Kisaragi
S*Dragonfire Tifa Lockheart
That program sound interesting!
I know they have done a similar thing in New Zeeland, were they used lilac point Balinese to improve the lilacs och chocolates in ragdolls. We have a lilac male here in Sweden who is an result off the program.
But I think maybe the birman might be a better chioce, as they are more similar in bodytype to the ragdoll.
Even though the male from the balineseprogram doesn't have a pure balinese in i pedigree for several generations back, you can still se obvious signs on him that shows the balinese heritage.
In any way, I think it is always positive with controlled outcross programs. Yes, they will "destroy" the type of the breed, but that is only temporarily. The positive effects of bringing in new blood and genes to the breed is more valuable, I think.
But I do wonder what will happen with the white spottings on the ragdolls from this program? I mean, the birman has a very special type of white spotting. How will it effect the ragdoll patterns? Only time can tell...
Anyway, good luck with your litter! I think lilac ragdolls are just lovely, and I agree that you seldome see a true lilac ragdoll. Most of the ragdolls registered as lilacs or chocolates are merely pale blue- and sealpoint.
However, we have a breeder in Denmark, our neighbouring country, that has specialised in lilacs and chocolates, and she has really succeeded to breed truely beautiful lilac and chocolate raggies!
Check out her site, filled with beautiful pictures of gorgoues ragdolls:
I might use a male from her breeding to my other female, Tifa (who is the daughter of Sammi), a lilac bicolor! That would be really interesting!