Originally Posted by naznaz
I give up I GİVE UP you know more than I know. (Have you ever came Turkey? İf you'd come you could see homeless Angores on street). Angora cats are 99% one-coloured eyed cats if you don't mix their genes,or both Angoras and Vans are white. Both Angoras,Persians,Vans,Birmans... can be white haired. They OF COURSE can't make them the same. Eventhough two same breed of cats have lots of difference.
I said looks like each other. Because my Persian imagine in my brain is white and long haired,like Van and Angora.First images can be wrong.I've got enough knowlage how to separate Van or Persian.
Interesting post. I actually had a client that was from Afghanistan -- they went to Turkey on two occasions while I was working with their family, so I know more than you may think about what it is like there.
They were a very traditional family.
I am curious about your statement that "angora cats are 99% one-coloured eyed cats if you don't mix their genes." Isn't that exactly what they are doing on the streets of Turkey? Breeding however they please and "mixing" their genes? Maybe I misunderstood you. I'd also like to point out that if you are talking about cats from the streets, there is no way that you can call them purebred, as they breed at will. Singapuras, for example, began as a street cat with certain characteristics, but that "breed" only exists because of selective breeding that continued from there. I'm curious to know what you DO believe causes odd-eyes. Because technically when two animals mate, they are "mixing genes."
When you say "vans can be white" -- I'm also curious about that. The very term "van" means that color is restricted to the head and tail. Some have less than others, but to be a Turkish Van, technically, the characteristic markings are a few splotches on the head between the ears, and a colored tail. If you see an all-white cat, it's not a Turkish Van, as the very name means exactly what it says. The International Cat Association has a very clear description, if you are interested.
Birmans? White? Birmans are a pointed cat. The International Cat Association says: "Birmans are pointed in all colors. Coat color and point color are weighted equally in evaluation." They are, however, supposed to have white feet -- but that's it.
Yes, persians can be white. So can MANY breeds, as well as moggies. TAs are a medium-haired cat, persians are longhaired.
Saying that purebred Turkish Angoras roam the streets of Turkey and they are all over is like me saying that purebred American Shorthairs roam the streets of America. It may happen just due to irresponsible breeders or owners, but if these cats are stray, then they breed at will and will for generations. The very idea defies the concept of "purebred."
This is not to say that certain regions contain cats with unique features -- but that is expected as every breed originated from cats with certain characteristics. But to be called purebred, selective breeding needs to continue for several generations. Cats just don't do this on the streets. As for there being "lots of difference" between cats of the same breed -- I think it really depends on the breed. Chartreux and Singapura, for example, should all look very much the same within their breeds. But a breed like Ragamuffin can come in every color and pattern that exists. Their body types, however, should remain as close to the standard as possible. No matter what breed we discuss though, the fact is that without selective breeding, it doesn't exist.
I hope this has been helpful.