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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 05-04-2008, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
 
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How would civilization be diff if mult births were the norm?

How do you think society and civilization would be different if multiple births were the norm? (Imagine for the sake of discussion that this either was the state humans originally evolved or were created in, or that it was done through genetic engineering that had no side effects like unpleasant or unrelated mutations or birth defects and did not require unethical testing/experimentation to develop, and that this new subspecies of humans did not have any of the normal increased risks of complications from multiple births) Also, what do you think about the different sub-scenarios of this idea described below? Is there IYO one of them that would likely lead to a more advanced and/or peaceful society than the others?

Sub-scenarios (combine one of (A)-(D) with one of (1)-(4)):

A) Most or all births are twins
B) Most or all births are triplets or quadruplets (I really don't know, but I'm guessing triplets/quadruplets might be psychologically quite a bit different than twins because any group of 3+ people is a lot different than a group of 2)
C) Both of the above are common
D) A, B, and single births are all common

1) Most or all groups of siblings are fraternal
2) Most or all groups are identical
3) Most or all have a combination of both in each group
3b) 2 distinct sets of identical twins are most common
4) 2 or more of (1), (2) and (3) are all common
Etc....................


IF THERE WERE A CONVINCING RATIONALE that these new humans would be better suited for establishing a permanent colony on a (hypothetical) habitable planet in another solar system (for example: "people are genetically predisposed to respond best to Earth conditions; for instance human brains respond best to light from our own sun, and there could also be other less obvious nontrivial differences on an alien planet: this could cause disturbing feelings of disconnection and alienation that would likely be reduced if everyone had (especially identical) siblings"), would you think it was a desirable/OK thing to do this genetic engineering prior to colonizing the new planet, or would it be too bizarre or even morally objectionable (or for instance have a risk of being somehow else problematic such as turning out to be somehow incompatible with human nature and thus being inviable or dysfunctional in the long run) ?

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I thought of a bunch of both hypothetical positive and negative consequences earlier but I'm too lazy to think of all of them now (partially from headache medicine and not sleeping last night) and also it might be more interesting to get fresh ideas before posting mine....

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A 2nd completely different and perhaps less bizarre scenario is if women were larger than men (e.g. on average 6'3 and 190lbs.) or were approximately the same size (e.g. avg. 5'11 and 170lbs.) What effects/changes to society do you think these 2 scenarios would cause?
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Oh, heavens, I don't even want to think about it. There's too many people already.
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Seriously now, how many people do you know who would voluntarily give birth to a litter?

It makes no sense. How would the average person possibly afford to clothe, feed, educate and generally run roughshod over all them babies, hmmm ???
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It's only a hypothetical question, and I would think it through for a philosophy class...it's an interesting question....but to give a well thought out, scholarly answer would take quite a bit of time.




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A 2nd completely different and perhaps less bizarre scenario is if women were larger than men (e.g. on average 6'3 and 190lbs.) or were approximately the same size (e.g. avg. 5'11 and 170lbs.) What effects/changes to society do you think these 2 scenarios would cause?

A LOT less domestic violence going on.
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I don't think we would be working for 69 cents to a man's dollar. Some men think might makes right, and that men are more intelligent than women (not all men, of course). It that theory applied to large women, there would probably be more women executives.

If we kept our more pacifistic and nurturing instincts, I think there would be fewer wars, also. I don't think the traits that make women different from men would be lost if we were taller. However, people seem to look up to taller people, figuratively. Heaven knows why.

I'm 5'8", and, until I got married, I wished I were shorter. I just got sick of the "how's the weather up there" jokes. Of course, as I matured, it didn't matter any more. The point I'm leading to is that in most presidential elections the taller candidate wins. That makes no sense, whatsoever, but it happens.




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