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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-07-2004, 12:01 PM Thread Starter
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Thought provoking link...

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-07-2004, 01:58 PM
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Hmmmmm vewy vewy interesting.......

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post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-07-2004, 02:45 PM
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This is a farce!

I saw this EXACT same movie last week, the link posted by a user of another forum I visit.

Someone else posted a link to an explanation as to why the video "looked" so realistic. The video stretches the truth! I don't remember the name of the website that explained the falsities in the video, but in a nutshell it boils down to the fact that the plane slammed into the Pentagon with such force that there was no way to see the wreckage from the outside ring of the building where the video was shot. It got almost all the way through 4 rings. Not only that, MOST of the wreckage was burned to ashes, as were the planes that slammed into the Twin Towers, because they were full of fuel from the recent takeoff. It also goes on to explain, and show on video, how there were pieces of a 757 lying on the Pentagon lawn - gee! Somehow that was missed on THIS video!

I don't mean to go off on a political tangent or anything but it makes me mad when someone out there wants to cause a stir in the country over some "political views" and puts stuff out there for people to view and get misconstrued. IMO, it's just another thing that somebody wanted to add to the list of things not to like about the current administration in the White House and get them booted out of there. Not only that, if this video was shot FOR REAL then why did it take 3 years after the fact to get the story out? And, call it a coincidence, but it's an election year!

The fact is, Flight 757 DID crash into the Pentagon on 9/11. Otherwise, how do you account for all the souls lost in the flight that day?! I'm sure the families of those victims wouldn't appreciate "stories" like this. Ask them where their loved ones are today.
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The fact is, Flight 757 DID crash into the Pentagon on 9/11. Otherwise, how do you account for all the souls lost in the flight that day?! I'm sure the families of those victims wouldn't appreciate "stories" like this. Ask them where their loved ones are today.
I didn't post any comments on this video because i really didn't have any. I too question it's content, but nonetheless it is thought provoking. I wondered about how you would account for all the poor people that were lost that day. However, I guess one could say that the plane was taken somewhere else, and maybe they haven't been accounted for.

I personally have no knowledge of the facts one way or the other, but anything is possible. Are you saying that the FACT is that thye 757 did crash into the pentagon just because the flight is missing and so are the people? Or, are you saying that because there is evidence that it was the 757 that in fact crashed into the pentagon. Was any of this video true? Is it true that no wreckage of the plane whatsoever was found? Is it is false?

I'm sure the families of those victims wouldn't appreciate "stories" if that's what they are...stories. But, are they?

I never had any doubt before about what happened, but this video does make you think.
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Check out www.snopes.com for a good slam on that nasty, hateful video. As someone who got to watch what happened in New York firsthand, I am disgusted that anyone would try to dismiss any part of that attack as staged. I get sick to my stomach every time someone sends me that stupid video.
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Rayona, do you have a direct link to the article? I'm having a hard time finding it with snopes' search function.
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Are you saying that the FACT is that thye 757 did crash into the pentagon just because the flight is missing and so are the people? Or, are you saying that because there is evidence that it was the 757 that in fact crashed into the pentagon. Was any of this video true? Is it true that no wreckage of the plane whatsoever was found? Is it is false?
I'm saying the fact is that the 757 did crash into the Pentagon because pieces of it were found on the Pentagon lawn as well as the innermost section of the damaged building, which was NOT looked into on this video.

The video does show real things but skips A LOT of detail. It fails to look INTO the building and it fails to explain all the "questions" posed by the person who started this website. All it accomplishes is posing a "shadow of a doubt" on the whole thing but doesn't substantiate why there should be any doubt.

It's not like I was there to see any of these things go on that day (THANK GOD!) but I find it extremely unbelievable that these things did NOT happen. Employees of the Pentagon either died or were injured that day. Over 100 lives were lost on that plane. All sorts of news programs went through the list of the dead, as well as some posting pictures. It's not like all these people just up and disappeared without explanation.

For the sake of all the victims and their families, I hope this guy's flash video does get shut down. Furthermore, I think his pleas for donations may even be a far cry considering you can still watch the video without giving a red cent. It's just somebody trying to make a quick buck.
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Rayona, thanks for posting the www.snopes.com link. That's the one I was talking about in my post but couldn't remember what it was nor how to find it.

I can't imagine having been there to see the Trade Centers fall. It was devastating enough watching it on TV. I remember that day so vividly. You know how people who were kids in the 60s say they'll never forget where they were the day Kennedy was shot? I'll never forget where I was on 9/11. I was at home and supposed to be working doing medical transcription when my husband called from his job and told me to turn the TV on. I just sat there and cried most of the day, sickened by what I was watching but yet I couldn't seem to tear myself away from it. Needless to say, I couldn't concentrate worth a darn and didn't try to finish working that day.
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post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-07-2004, 04:45 PM
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Anissa, here is the direct link: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm There are lots of others in the "Rumors of War" section.
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