I actually can't feed the whole small animals either (I could never feed something I consider a pet first and foremost to my cat), that's why I do "frankenprey" and just use grocery meat. So I understand that aspect, Could you not handle things like chicken wings, chicken thighs etc?
I could handle thighs and chicken wings on occasion, but I'm still really concerned about his allergies. Chicken as the basis of the diet would be WAY cheaper than lamb! Even organic, hormone-free, which I know I'd want to do. Chicken was the first thing he become allergic to, and boy, was it severe. But I have ready that cats that are often allergic to chicken etc. in cat food do fine with it raw. I guess I'm just hoping that I'll run across someone on the forum that's had similar experiences with cat allergies, and get some first-hand advice.
I'm sorry, I missed where you said you will not use regular veggie oil. I still don't like that it is a non-animal based oil. Even when buying commercial food I look for a food that uses chicken fat as the fat source and not flax seed oil. Is there a reason this is supposed to work better than fish oil.
In the two books I've read, an omega oil like the one I'm using was strongly suggested for cats with skin problems like mine. An omega fish oil can be used, but for cats with allergies they suggested something plant based that wasn't corn oil.
Could you show me the sites that say not to use rabbit? I have never heard of this from any of the people on the yahoo raw cat group and many of them feed rabbit regularly. Usually once something is frozen for a certain amount of time it kills any parasites (and most meat is frozen for a long while before you get it).
I don't think I found that on a website...It was in the two books I've read, and one that I perused. I tend to feel more comfortable with things that are published in books by vets than just what I read on the internet, you know? The books are by Dr. Pitcairn and Anitra Frazier.
As far as tuarine supplements, I know people who feed ground meat have to do this, I don't. When I want more taurine than something like breast meat has (not very much) I feed a chicken thigh or some animal heart, they are full or taurine. Does Pitcairn's book discuss supplementing taurine?
Both books talk about supplementing taurine, and the need for organs/heart/liver or a synthetic supplement. I believe there is some present in the cod liver oil, but I'm not positive. I'm really not sure what the logic is for using cod liver oil instead of fish body oil. Any ideas?
When I switched Willie to raw I did one meal raw, one meal dry food for a long time. His stools did get a bit softer but nothing terrible. I would have gone cold turkey but it took me a long time to get him to eat bone and the diet cannot be complete unless the cat eats bone (in the diet I feed) so I had to do half dry until he stared eating enough bone. I know many people who go straight to raw with no problems other than a little loose stool. So I think it's up to you and how sensitive your cats are. Do they usually react badly to food changes?
Up until I switched to the very last prescription food, the venison, Edgar had the most regular stools I've ever seen, no matter what he ate or how quickly I switched him. Then with the venison he developed the explosive diarreah. Gizmo has always been the one sensitive to food switches, and so far his stools are looking fine. A tiny bit softer than usual, but not bad at all. He is the one that puked, but I do think that was because of hairballs. He's considered a hairless breed, and they hardly shed at all, so I know his stomach isn't used to dealing with hair at all!
I'm going to see how they did with the amount of raw I gave them this morning. I gave them almost a full serving of raw, with just a little bit of the dry next to it. If they handle it well, I'm hoping to try full raw for dinner tonight. After we finish up the small bit of mixed up stuff I have frozen with the rice in it, I'm going to use the rest of the unmixed lamb and make some with some peas or potato (very small amount), and put in a taurine supplement, and research the cod liver oil a little more. I know the grains need to go. I just want to make sure the cod liver oil and the things in the "Healthy Powder" mix aren't common allergens. The steroids are almost totally out of Edgar's system now, and he's begun chewing the insides of his front arms again
I'm sorry your kitty is throwing up. Hopefully he will stop pulling out his hair soon. If the raw food is too cold it can also sometimes cause a cat to vomit so make sure it's room temp or a bit warmer.
Yeah, I've experienced the throwing up from cold when they've been sneaky and drank water out of a cold glass of ice water left sitting on the counter. I try to get it a bit warmer than room temp, to avoid that problem.
I don't think getting them to eat a bone would be a big deal...they seem to enjoy the raw meat now. I'm just concerned about Edgar's allergies and using chicken.
What other raw forums do you frequent? I'd love to post on a few others and get some more feedback.