1) This question is more relating to how the pets themselves will make a mess of the house. My germaphobe mom has nightmares of them strewing the whole house with raw food, blood and entrails.
I could use a towel, but what's to prevent either of them from taking a piece and running off with it? I could command the dog, but not the cat.
LOL, it's not all that messy to begin with... but all I did with my animals (dogs and cats) was simply take it away, and put it back on the feeding area. They learned that if they didn't eat it where I wanted them to, they didn't eat it!
'What's wrong with just giving them the COOKED food we eat and tweaking it a bit so there's no extra seasoning?' I said loss of nutrients. She counters with 'well, we eat it!'.....All I had to say was...we aren't cats or dogs. She's ever worse than my mother. She's gagging even just from reading about raw. Right now, she feeds the 2nd cat meal for me, I'll either have to be content with her feeding wet or shifting the meal time an hour later when I get home.
You are absolutely correct. Cats and dogs have vastly different needs than humans. Our bodies were made to eat cooked food. Theirs were made to eat raw.
When someone else is feeding my animals, I put it in plastic baggies, clearly labled with the animal's name. They simply have to dump it in the dish (or on the towel/placemat). They don't even have to touch it.
2) What's the diff between edible bone and recreational bone? I'm thinking edible one is the cartilidge stuff and recreational is the big ones like the drumstick? I'm a bit puzzled..would both of them literally be able to chomp down on a drumstick type bone (that thickness and size)? For their small mouths and body size, I'm finding it hard to believe. (a 4.4 pound kitten and a 8.9 pound papillon).
Recreational bones are the weight bearing bones of large animals. Beef bones are all considered rec (some call them “WrecK”) bones, because they are dense. I personally do not give rec bones.
I was very skeptical about a cat being able to crunch down most bones, but they can do it. I only very recently started rawfeeding my cats… but they can absolutely crunch up a chicken thigh bone with no problems.
The first few times you feed, smash up the chicken with a meat mallet (leave it in the baggie to avoid a mess… your mom wouldn’t be happy with that!). Your cats will need to build up jaw strength.
I only have large dogs, so I can’t speak from personal experience on your Papillon’s ability to crunch up pork bones, etc. but on the rawfeeding list there are LOTS of members feeding small dogs raw. One of them even has a toothless Chinese Crested that eats raw… bones and all!
3) The blood...the blood will totally kill the whole deal. As I said, both my sister and mother are OH MY GOD, BLOOOOD and GOOORE, NOOOOOO! I've never cooked organ meats or any kind of meat from raw. No idea if I can handle to blood.
You’ll be an old pro before you know it! It really isn’t that terribly messy. The meat will not be fresh enough (as in, freshly killed) so there will not be a lot of blood/gore.
4) Okay. I understand about developing jaw strength, but I'm talking about the individual teeth...won't he chip them on hard bone if he's not been exposed to it.
Nope. You’ll be surprised at how natural it comes to them. I know I was positively amazed. Regardless, you’ll be feeding chicken the first two weeks, and those bones are easy peasy.
Would giving them ground up bones be okay? Not good for dental I suppose, but nutrient wise, they'll still get that?
Provided you stick to the general 80/10/10 guideline, it’s technically okay… but you are taking away a lot of the benefit (dental, mental stimulation, etc.). Plus, tons more work for you!
5)The chihuahua had a nervous personality
I have noticed a dramatic improvement with my highly anxious/nervous GSD male after just over a month of rawfeeding.
6) I'm willing to do the job, but i'm afraid on days that i'm not home in time, the others won't help me feed if it's a raw diet. Perhaps at those times, the pets will have to make do with the kibble/wet foods.
See my comment above about preparing and bagging up the meals ahead of time. My mom was SUPER dead set against me rawfeeding. I can truly sympathize with you… although it is likely much more challenging for you because my mom doesn’t live with me.
There wouldn’t be a huge issue with going to kibble (for the dog) or canned (for the cat) on days when it would be necessary. Some rawfeeders I know feed a commercial or prepackaged raw diet when traveling, for convenience sake. Some animals may experience loose stool, however.
Rocky the dog is about 8.9 pounds and Miu Miu the cat was 4.4 pounds at the beginning of January. (she's probably heavier now.) So 2-4% of their weight ..daily or per meal? That's roughly 0.25 pounds/4oz for Rocky and 0.13 pounds/2oz for Miu Miu at 3%?
Start with 2% and then go from there. It is per day, so if you’re feeding two meals, divide it by two.
Rocky would get approximately 3 oz of food per day. Split up into two meals, that would be approximately 1.5 oz per meal.
Miu Miu would get 1.4 oz daily. Split up into two meals, that would be approximately .7 oz per meal.
IMPORTANT NOTE!!! If either of your animals are young, your estimate would be based on their ideal ADULT weight. So, if Miu Miu is a kitten, you’d guess what she will be when she’s an adult, and use that to calculate the 2%.
I'm also wanting to only go with chicken, beef, pork, duck, maybe quail.
Sounds like a good menu to me. I actually have a bit of trouble with mice… with the feet and the legs and the tail… so I don’t blame you.