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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-18-2010, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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so frustrated with organs

Willie still won't eat organ, no liver or kidney. He decided he likes heart but that's no help. I've cooked it, cut it into tiny pieces and cut the chicken into pieces to try and hide it, I've smashed it into a gel and smeared it on (though it didn't work very well). I'm sure when I cut it and the chicken into pieces he gets some but definitely not enough. I'm starting to worry that it's gonna start to hurt him soon. I'm gonna see if sticking small pieces to the back or tortilla chip pieces (he loves tortilla chips and fritos) will work, but he examines his food so thoroughly before eating I'm sure he'll notice and decline.

I guess this is more of a rant than anything. Anyone know of supplements that can take the place of organ? I'm going to keep trying but I don't want to harm him in the process.
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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-18-2010, 10:14 PM
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Re: so frustrated with organs

Vitamin A and D. Not sure how much. You would have to either figure it out by using the USDA minimum guidelines and figuring out dry matter or use the rough guideline on catnutrition.org. Possibly add cod liver oil since it has A and D. But will need to figure out the amount to make sure he is getting what he needs.

Is it all types of liver? I think the most widely available are beef and chicken.

Maybe try to inject slightly watered down liver paste into good size chunks of meat. Another thought could be to hide it into eggs. Or cooking it into eggs. Eggs also contain A and D, just the yolks though. I am sure you know but raw whites over a long period of time may contribute to a deficiency. Cooked whites are fine.

Thats all I can think of right now
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-19-2010, 08:53 AM
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Re: so frustrated with organs

Maybe not the best option, but does he like fish? Have you tried mixing the pate version into a small amount of stinky sardines (cooked)? I know cooked isn't great, but if it gets him eating liver/kidney, then why not!? We give sardines and canned salmon infrequently to all the cats/dogs and no one has issues.

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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-19-2010, 09:40 AM
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Re: so frustrated with organs

I never had this problem b/c my cats all loved all organs from the get-go (bless them!). But it did take me a YEAR to get Sophie (dog) eating raw really well, so here are my suggestions:

(1) Feed normal a.m. meal, no organs. For the p.m. meal, offer a small piece of liver ONLY. Sear it LIGHTLY, let cool slightly, and offer. Walk away and PAY NO ATTENTION. Give him an hour. Then take it up. Do the same thing the next day (meal in a.m., liver only in p.m.). Since he's getting one full meal a day, he won't starve and he won't go into hepatic lipidosis (he's not fat, I assume?). But he WILL eventually get hungry enough to eat the liver. WHEN HE DOES, immediately give him a serving of a raw food he loves. Do this until he is eating the liver up nicely. As long as he's eating liver, you can take your time w/ other organs--they really don't have anything that muscle meat doesn't. It's nice to feed them, but not essential as liver is.

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(2) Try tuna juice. Perhaps mash liver and mix w/ the juice. It's hard to resist. Gradually reduce amount of juice.

(3) Have you tried freeze-dried liver treats? Not as good as the real thing, but o.k. in the meantime and better than nothing. You need ONLY liver--nothing else. Here is an example:

http://www.gimborn.net/categories.php?id=1

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Keep us posted! You certainly CAN provide a kitty multivitamin that contains A and D in the meantime, but look for something w/
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