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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 09-02-2010, 05:11 PM Thread Starter
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Raw diet/human health question

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I've been feeding raw now for nearly a year! Yay! And its all going well.
But my Mum said somethng the other day that made me stop and think!
If I feed my guys (raw of course) then they come over and lick me - is that potentially dangerous? And cat clean themselves - if my guys eat then wash (which they do) are they potentially spreading bacteria from the meat all over themselves that I'm then going to touch/kiss/smush my face into?
What do you think?


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Taken from Species-Inappropriate: The Dangers of Dry Food

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Recent pet food recalls involving salmonella contamination were commonly for dry pet food. Dry food can be more dangerous than raw diets for the reason that people are not cautious about handling it. With raw food, safe handling and feeding practices are followed, so contamination is unlikely.
In other words I'd be more worried if the cat was eating dry food than if you were feeding rawwink
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If anything, I think I am gradually building immunity toward salmonella...ha ha.
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This is actually one of the biggest controversies about raw feeding that is going on right now. There was a study done by a Canadian veterinarian that indicates that dogs fed a raw diet are significantly more likely to shed salmonella and e. coli than dogs fed non-raw. This study and some other inputs are the basis for Delta Society (a large organization for Pet Therapy dogs) to ban raw fed dogs from their program, citing that immuno compromised people should not be exposed to dogs shedding salmonella and e. coli.

There are plenty of responses around the internet attacking the study, but the little I've read are finger pointing in another direction to take the focus off the raw diets "well look at all the dry food recalls for salmonella" or "the number of dogs in the study isn't statistically valid". Yes, the dry foods have been recalled, but that doesn't mean that home created raw diets are a better solution, especially because there really is no way to know just how many pets are shedding pathogens. What the responses lack are any data at all to refute the claims of the study.

Personally, I don't think there's enough information to really draw any conclusions. But the information that is available is enough to make me err on the side of caution and not feed raw if a family member were immuno compromised.

This is the study in question:

www.asph.org/vetmed/ppt/lefebvre.ppt
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If anything, I think I am gradually building immunity toward salmonella...ha ha.
lol! I know I'm already immune to certain things after working at a dairy farm for a long time

Knowing how much healthier all mine are due to a raw diet its worth what little (or non existant) risk there is to be feeding them raw....
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The link to the actual study that Doodlebug references is here: Preliminary assessment of the risk of Salmonella infection in dogs fed raw chicken diets.

My major problem with Daniel J. Joffe's many "studies" is twofold. First, they universally ignore the fact that common sense handling of cat and dog poop completely alleviates any potential risk of bacterial shedding that may be present. Exactly the same way pregnant woman are told to manage the minimal but widely known risk of Toxoplasmosis.

And second, if you check the footnotes of Joffe's 2009 study, Perceptions, practices, and consequences associated with foodborne pathogens and the feeding of raw meat to dogs, you will see he has a relationship to Nestle Purina.

In other words, he's being paid to "prove" that raw-feeding is dangerous to our pets and our families.

As to the original question, it's one I had myself when I first started feeding raw. I can't recall reading something specific that I could point you to and say, "here's why it's perfectly safe", however, hugging my kitties and getting kisses from them is not something I worry about. Not even for a second.

The bacterial loads of fresh raw foods is substantially lower than that of commercially-produced foods. The feeding of raw meats to our pets should be of no more worry than the feeding of steaks and barbecued chicken to our families, as long as we use the same safe handling practices and keep our counters and our pets eating areas clean.

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According to my vet, handling the raw food itself is a danger. So make sure you wash your hands thoroughly. It's not something I would consider, but to each his own. Just be careful.




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Ah, so it's as I said before.... use the same safe handling practices you use for your own meals and you're good to go.

Have you found these answers reassuring, CherryPie?
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