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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-06-2013, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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Hello everyone -
I am so happy to have found this forum. My husband and I are the proud new guardians of "Hunter", a Pixie Bob (a wonderful breed). I have been around kittens/cats for most of my life. However, this is my first exposure to a "raw diet".
Hunter is now 13 weeks old and 4lbs/12ozs and growing like a weed (Pixie Bobs are a larger breed) BUT he seems to be constantly hungry!!!! We are feeding more than the average 5% of weight but he appears to have a bottomless pit for a stomach. He looks good and the vet is pleased with his body composition.
I would love to hear from anyone regarding advice of how much is too much.

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-08-2013, 01:50 AM
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Hi PHann and Welcome to the forum!
Lots of Raw Feeders here! Can't to see Pics of your Big Baby! :p

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Hi PHann. I've just transitioned my four (2 @ 1 yr and 2 @ 3 yrs) over to raw. I'm fiddling with portion size - using their weight/shape as a guide. Simple - too fat = less, too thin = more! It's amazing how the portion size varies! It ranges from 100gms/day for fat Mme Coco (3), 110gms/day for Miss Effie (3) who needs to lose just a little, 130gms/day for Wee Lisbeth (1yr) who is about right and 160gms/day for Tyrion who is VERY active and athletic and is still growing I think. BUT my lot are all over a year old now. At 13 weeks I'd still be free feeding or at least offering 3-5 meals a day. Hunter is still a baby and is still growing HEAPS so needs lotsa food

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At his age you can't really overfeed, especially with raw. Let him eat as much as he wants in about 10 minutes, 3-4 times a day. He'll be running off the extra anyways

Worry more about controlling portion size once he's about 8-10months.
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Help! Our 5 month old kitty has been ill for a couple of days and now that he is feeling better, will not eat his raw diet but will eat kibble which we have for emergencies only. He has only ever been on raw. How do we get him back to loving his raw food?
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I would gradually re-introduce the raw he used to eat by mixing some with his dry. Maybe 10% raw then in a few days 25% raw, etc. This may ease him back to it.

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Noooo!!!! NEVER mix raw and dry food! Sprinkling a bit of kibble-powder on the raw is different, but feeding 25% kibble and the rest raw is an absolute recipe for disaster!

Kibble takes about 24 hours to digest, raw takes 6. The reason raw is safe is because of the fast digestions time, so any bacteria and parasites in the meat have much less time to get a hold. If you feed it with kibble the raw can get stuck at the slower digestion rate, increasing your risk of something going wrong drastically.

OP, rather than giving kibble I'd feed wet food along with the raw. It still takes longer to digest, but not anywhere near as long as the kibble...TBH though, if it was my cat I'd take the raw food, mix in hot water from the tap to make is more 'soupy' and feed him that.

He's likely still feeling a bit off and is eating the kibble because it has a stronger odor than the raw food. Cat's appetites are stimulated by scent more than anything else.

I'd toss the kibble entirely. For 'emergencies' feed a high quality grain free canned food. I buy blue buffalo wilderness (the dog food cans, lol) for my 4 cats. They get maybe 2 meals a month of it, and that's more than enough for them. I only feed it to them when I've forgotten to thaw something, or if I'm sick, ect.

If you keep kibble in the house your kitten will smell it, and then you're risking hunger strikes (think: temper tantrums) because he wants the junk food rather than his yummy normal stuff. Like when you offer a toddler a delicious home made balanced meal and they'd rather have chicken nuggets and fries from McDs.
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Thank-you for the great suggestion of making the raw food more soupy - we did not even think about digestion time for kibble - having canned food on hand is a wonderful idea.
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I've also read that you CAN pressure can raw food if you make it yourself (at that point, it's no longer raw, though, it's cooked) for emergencies like a power outage that would cause your raw food to spoil. Not an ideal all the time food, but they can eat it over the few days it might take to get power restored.
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You can use a pressure cooker to can meat, yes...but TBH there is no way to make that cheaper than store bought canned food, but it's no where near as nutritionally sound.

A pressure cooker is going to set you back $100+, then there's the jars, the energy it'll take to run the stove for over an hour to safely process the meat, and THEN you need to store glass jars. Plus it won't keep as long as canned food.

So yes, you COULD do it, but IMO it isn't worth it.

If you're keeping something for emergencies I'm always going to go with grain free canned food before kibble or home-canned meat.
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