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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-17-2014, 11:54 AM Thread Starter
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Two weeks into Raw

I put both boys on raw prey model two weeks ago today. I TRIED doing it 5 or 6 years ago but MowMow was still revealing allergies at the time and I got frustrated and just switched him back to canned. I even tried commercial raw, but he always had trouble keeping it down unless it was mixed fresh at home.

With Book's recent bladder issues and MowMOw's IBD I decided it was time to try raw again. I worked up all the numbers, made a spreadsheet, made a menu and bought about 20lbs of meat, organs, and bones. Then spent about 5 hours dicing it all into small bites (I figure the bites can get bigger as they get used to gnawing on meat). My freezer now has WAY more cat food in it than people food.....

Book has taken to it like a champ... he loves his meals and can't get enough. MOwMow however was way more challenging. First meal went down perfectly fine. NO problems. Ever since then he throws it up within 15 minutes(cleaning bloody raw meat out of the carpet is no freaking picnic and STAINS). I tried varying the temperature, the size of the chunks (even tried grinding it), no organs, more organs, more bone, less bone... it doesn't seem to matter to him. He immediately throws it up.

He has to eat the beef because he's allergic to turkey and chicken (even raw, we tried that last time), and I sure can't afford to feed him raw rabbit/quail every day.

He lost almost 2lbs in two weeks and he looks like crap from vomiting 3X a day (and I'm sure feels like crap). I'd wind up giving him some canned to get food into him anyway so, I switched him back to full time canned. He's now had 3 meals with NO vomit and is feeling pretty sassy for it. He had his first crazies in two weeks this morning..zooming around.

It looks like I'll have ONE cat on raw (with enough food for 2 months now...) and one on canned.

I was so stupid to mess with MowMow's food, it took me YEARS to find a balance that worked with him.... and I messed with it.

Been a very frustrating two weeks.

I do have a question for the raw savvy.... Book isn't digging his non secreting organ. He's had thymus and left it behind and had lamb kidney and left it behind. Any suggestions enticing him to eat them?
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 02-17-2014, 02:55 PM
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Wow, lamb kidney is Sunny's favorite thing in the world! That being said, if Book doesn't like it could you sprinkle a bit of Fortiflora just on those pieces? Or bonito flakes or parmesan cheese?

Glad MowMow seems to be getting back on track. Don't feel bad about changing his diet - you were trying to do what is supposed to be the healthiest thing for a cat. He's just one of those cats who is too sensitive to food. Wasn't there another cat on the forum who was throwing up all his raw? I think it was Baron Von Moggy.
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At work, so I can't really reply.

Jitzu does that (throws up) sometimes on raw. Ive got some tricks. I'll post once im off work it's not hopeless!
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Poor MowMow. I'm glad he is feeling better. I have been hit and miss with my raw. Some days it's a hit, some days not so much. We rotate raw and canned. I pick my battles.

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Holly pukes when fed raw too. I haven't tried to fight the battle to get her switched over. But one thing I did find out is that if I only give her a little (about 1/2 oz) she will keep it down. I figure if I ever want to switch her over my approach would be to start with small amounts and work it up slowly over time.

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Doodlebug has it right, when Jitzu's in a fussy tummy phase I feed her much smaller portions more often, but I also up her dose of acidophilus and feed foods she has an easier time with.

For Jitzu that means turkey and pork, no bones. After a week or so of that I find her digestive system has calmed back down enough I can risk something a little harder (like heart) and if it's just a tiny piece she does ok. Gradually I edge her back into the normal routine, it usually takes up to 3 weeks to get her back to normal.

I have yet to figure out why this happens, but every 6 months or so she just is significantly more sensitive. *sigh* Since kibble and wet aren't options for her (puking after every matter how good it is) I just have to stick to 'easy' raw and cross my fingers.

I find she does better with either very finely ground meat, or bigger chunks. And not too cold. I know you mentioned trying that, I bring it up more as a 'each cat has a thing' more than anything else.

I'm glad to hear the canned food calms his tummy down...have you considered trying 1/2 and 1/2 again?
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I don't think I'm going to mess with his food again.

The vet (and I am as well) is very pleased with his health and weight. HIs last blood test was spot on... at his age (10) I think I'm just going to keep doing what I am and offer small bits of raw when I cook for myself.

The minute he gets stressed or upset his IBD goes bonkers and he starts vomiting and loses a bunch of weight. I"m not willing to mess with it again, I hate seeing him that miserable.
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Oh, and I tried parmesan on the kidney/thymus and he just licked it off and spit out the small chunks of kidney.

The only thing I haven't tried was chopping it SUPER fine and mushing it up with the regular meat..... doesn't appeal to me, but I'll try it.

Gotta say, cutting up the meat and then the organs had me grossed the heck out. I was more than willing to skip dinner that night and just have a cup of peppermint tea to calm my stomach down. Blech....
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