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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-30-2014, 03:07 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Raw diet making IBD worse?

Over the last 3 weeks I've transitioned my cats from kibble to canned to raw. My problem child, Kitty, has had chronic diarrhea for over 2 years. The whole reason for the change to raw was to try to combat this since the Vet hasn't had any luck finding a treatment.
So now, 3 weeks into raw, the stools are worse than ever. She's "explosive". Today she managed to spray liquid feces across my entire shower (her favorite place). There were splash marks across an 8ft x 4ft area. And she does this several times a day.
Other than this "little" problem, she's eating fine - in fact she eats more than the other 3 cats - possibly because she's not retaining it. She has lost weight which really isn't a good thing. She's probably less than 10 lbs now.
I've tried switching around the type of protein starting with canned duck to canned fishes to raw Rad Cat Turkey/Chicken to home made raw chicken breast with TCFeline premix for raw diets.

She's still on the Prednisolone (which the vet prescribed). I'd like to get her off of it but am not sure whether to do that now or wait.

Nothing I've tried has had a positive effect.

Does anyone have ideas on what I should try next?
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post #2 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-30-2014, 03:50 PM
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Usually the amount of bone in the diet controls the stool firmness, although your cat already had issues going into it so you don't know if this will be the complete solution since you don't know what was/is causing her diarrhea in the first place. If you up the amount of bone though, her stools should solidify more. Just don't go too much in the other direction because she could get constipated.
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This is just off the top of my head with nothing to back it up. Try cooking the chicken breast and grinding it if possible. I'm making this suggestion only because you've seemingly tried everything else. Perhaps you could back it up with a very small amount of kibble.

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Has Tritrichomonas foetus been ruled out? This can cause seemingly 'untreatable' diarrhea in cats. Been there, done that!

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I would switch her over to a single meat food, weather it's homemade or store bought. All chicken, for example. And keep her on that ONLY for at least three weeks to give her system time to adjust. Constantly changing it up makes it hard to spot the problem ingrediant

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What has been done to diagnose her? Have you used any other meds and/or supplements besides pred? How long has she been on the pred? Has it helped at all? We really need a whole history from you to be able to make some educated suggestions.

The chicken jumps out as a possible culprit. Also in reading your other posts it seems like you've thrown a lot of different foods and toppers at your cats in the last couple weeks. Any of that could be the problem as IBD kitties really don't do well with a lot of change.

I'm dealing with an IBD kitty too. He's on RadCat Lamb and Chlorambucil, which is a nasty chemo drug but it's the only thing that worked for him. Oh...and B12 shots.


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I'm in definite agreement with Pkbshrew!
Get her tested for Tritrichomonas foetus!
Way to many vets don't do a routine test for this...so unless they have a 'Light Bulb' moment or it's suggested to them, they don't think about it!!

Kitty has got to be stressed to the max with this...poor baby, two years is a long time to live with this...

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If she's has T. Foetus for 3 years, the other cats in the house would have it too. It's very contagious. Maybe worth testing for just to rule it out, but I'd be very surprised if the test was positive.


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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
Kitty has had a wide variety of fecal tests and bloodwork over the last couple of years. Everything came back negative.
None of the other 3 cats have any issues with digestion so I don't think it's contagious.
We also tried a B12 shot but that didn't work either (and her bloodwork did not show that she was B12 deficient).
The prednisolone worked somewhat initially. And then it "wore off". We took her completely off it for a while and then a new vet specialist told us to increase the dose over what she had before. Again, initially it seemed to help. And then the effect wore off again.

I'm now working on the "single food" concept but it hasn't been easy because she only agreed to eat the raw chicken yesterday. And the 3 other cats are not all on board. Two of them don't want to eat it. Tonight Kitty ate her bowl and then promptly ate the meals of 2 of the other cats because they didn't want it.
So ... either they all eat exactly the same thing (which they don't agree on), or Kitty is going to wind up eating hers and whatever else she can steal.

It's very hard to separate the meals so that they can't get to each other's food. But I'm working on it. And hoping that my 2 holdouts don't starve to death because I refuse to put down any kibble for snacks.

Thanks again.
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Don't let them go more than 24 hours with out eating. In some cats that can cause serious liver problems. You may want to try offering them some freeze dried raw kibbles. That may help. Is your IBD cat on any pro-biotics?
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