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Hello,
I have made the decision to start adding some commercial raw food into my two cats diets. I have found Natures Variety Instinct Cat bites that I have just sampled to the cats yesterday. They loved it once it was thawed and on top of their normal wet food. Because of money and time I cannot fully switch them to raw or make my own.
But it has proven to be very hard to find the Instinct for CATS in my local stores in York, Pennsylvania. They all seem to carry the dog but are almost always out of stock of the cat.
Are there any good websites to purchase frozen raw food from?
Or can I feed them the dog version (ingredients seem the same except dog has ground bone and cat has taurine)?
If I can find it (or use dog) I would consider splitting medallion size between them as part of their rotation of 'wet food'. They normally split a 3oz. can of wet food per day--quarter of can at each meal--plus about a 1/2 c. of high quality dry food to split per day.
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Ordering raw food online will cost a fortune in shipping costs as they need to package it with dry ice and use expedited shipping (1 or 2 day air).

I've asked the NV rep whether the dog can be used for cats and the answer was no, the formula is different. Just because the ingredients are the same doesn't mean the amounts are the same.

Go to an independent store and ask them to order it for you. I do special orders for lots of customers. I will even find out how often then need it and just order it for them on a schedule so they don't have to worry about calling or emailing me.
 

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I agree with doodlebug. Shipping charges online for frozen are HIGH. I get my local store to order for me if I even think there's a production problem with frozen stella and chewy's raw. I have been using Primal's raw frozen cat food with good success from 2 of my 3 cats. You may want to try them if your store has it.
My local store tried to tell me that I could feed the frozen dog food to my cats also because 1. the sells rep told them they could and 2. the dog food has the whole animal ground up (organs and all) so the proper amount of taurine would be in there even if it's not listed. However, the ratio is what's different. The dog formulas have more vegetables in it. Where primal cat has around 7% produce...The dog has like 20%. So that's where the problem comes into play. I have done it in a pinch when I have forgotten to order in time, but I don't make it routine thing. I called Primal and that person told me that as long as it's not a major part of their daily intake that it was fine on occasion.
 

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Depending where you are, you could order raw in large bulk and save money that way. However, it would only serve you if you fed the prey model raw diet or whole prey model diet. Ordering commercial raw like Primal, Nature's Variety, Honest Kitchen, or Vital Essentials, Rad Cat, etc, would be best ordered from your local pet stores, as Doodlebug mentioned. I don't know of any other way to get commercial raw diets, really.

If you're interested in the prey model raw or feeding whole prey, I can send you a link via PM. Haven't personally ordered from any of these suppliers, though.
 

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Good news! Over the past few months I called every pet store in a 20 mile radius. There was only one (!) that was immediately willing to order the frozen raw for me. And it happens to be a pet store close to my house! (My new favorite place)
I have had my cats eating the rabbit medallions daily (finally cut out all canned wet foods :)) and they love it!
I do have a few continued questions about it but I will start another fresh post for that. Thanks for all the advice :)
 

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Complete diet, teeth, and commercial raw

Hello,
Over the past few months I have been able to switch my cats over to Natures Variety Instinct Raw Rabbit Medallions. Rabbit is the only flavor they will eat with gusto. I have two cats, 3 years old and 1 year old. They love this raw food. I am not keen on making my own at home. I much prefer this commercial raw--especially since my cats are not keen on chicken, turkey, or fish and prefer rabbit.
I have been having a few questions along the way of our raw food journey:
1. They do not eat the 'suggested serving size'. Ive found that they will only finish their bowl with less. But they are healthy 8-9lb cats. Is this ok or should more be offered?
2. I am a dental hygienist and of course I am concerned about my pets teeth. I attempt to brush their teeth but this has proven difficult and a learning process for them and me. I have noticed that my local grocery store sells gizzards (chicken I believe). What could I add to their commercial raw diet, which is all ground up and mushy, to give them something to chew on and 'clean' their teeth? I've heard the gizzards are good for this. Is it as simple as buying them from store and putting one with their regular meal?
3. Nature's Variety claims that their commercial raw diet is "complete and balanced." We've had good vet checkups. I've added some pumpkin for my one cat who has had constipation problems in past with canned food but same problems have creeped back after being on raw for a while. What are your experienced opinions on this?
Sorry for the long post. Just thoughts and questions I've had along the way of this journey. Thanks in advance.
 
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