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When we got our apartment a year and a half ago, we signed a one year lease. Then we renewed for another 6 months and our rent increased by $30 a month. However we did get a $100 bonus for signing a new lease, so it wasn't too bad. Now we would like to renew for another 6 months, but they want to raise our rent by another $30 a month! (With the same $100 off). Well, I called today and asked how much our one bedroom apartment was going for (acted like I did not live there) and with the discount I would get for being a hospital employee, it would be $542 a month. They are trying to charge us almost $600 a month. I just think this is ridiculous! Is this standard practice? They will actually be saving money if we stay since they do not have to clean up the apartment and yet they want to charge us way more. I am tempted to just tell them that I don't want to renew, I just want to get a new aparment at the cheap price. Does anyone think it would work if I went to go talk to them and told them I knew how much the apartments were for a new renter and that I could not afford how much my rent was going up to and that I might just have to move somewhere else? Has anyone been in this situation? I could maybe understand if the rent was going up in general, but it is only going up for those who renew. :evil:
 

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That doesn't seem right at all. You might want to threaten to move out - but be prepared to carry out your threat, just in case.

I hated renting. I think buying a house was the best thing we ever did. Although, with ever increasing taxes, we still face the same issues. :roll:
 

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I think they charge you more because it's a shorter lease term. My fiance pays more per month for just rent than I do and I live across the parking lot from him. He originally signed a 9 month lease, and I signed a 1 year lease. However, they did not INCREASE rent with each signing.
 

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When I was in college I rented an apartment at an apartment complex with some friends. After the first year when we had to renew, they upped our rent (probably around $20-30/mo I don't remember exactly). We didn't think much of it since it was split by 3 at the time, but at the end of the second year they wanted to do the same thing. We ended up moving out and into another apartment at a different (nicer) complex. With the rent increases, we could afford it.
 

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Sadly this type of stuff is common. Here they do it more sneakily by offering incentives to move in to new customers only.
 

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I think last time we renewed, it was upped by $30 a month for a 6 month lease. If we had done a 1 year lease, it would have gone up $20 a month. This time, the paper they stuck on our door did not specify the length of lease, just how much the rent would be.
Believe me, we really want to be in a house for many reasons. We just cannot afford how much it would cost until my husband starts making money off his business. He expects this to be mid-August so if we sign another 6 month lease, it will be up at the end of October. Hopefully by then we can start looking to buy a house. That's why I don't to lease a whole year. Looking back, we should have signed a year lease last time, but my husband keeps taking longer and longer to start up his business. I can't imagine it taking a whole year longer though.
We really don't want to move out...it would be a giant pain. I just want to be able to convince them that they would be losing out on money if we decide to leave and that they should do the right thing and at least have our rates stay the same and not increase them again. I do not even receive cost of living raises. I just can't believe this...is this what they do to all the elderly people living here that obviously live here for many years...up their rent $30 without question every year?!
I just don't know the best way to go about doing this. I can't do it right now because when they asked me for my name when I was calling to find out the real prices, I had to think up a fake name really quickly and I accidentally gave them my real last name! :oops: What should I say to them? Should I mention that they will have to replace the carpet when we move since it was so crappy when we moved in and so they will save money by letting us stay? Should I mention that we have awful neighbors so unless they lower our rent we cannot justify staying? Should I threaten to just terminate this lease and start a whole new one at the lower rate they give to new people (at the same complex)? I will have my husband with me when I go in luckily. He is better at being mean to people, which is what I think we will have to do. Otherwise, they will just give me some stupid reason for why they are increasing the rates and I will say "Oh okay". Nobody gets away with that kind of stuff with my husband because he will explain to them how their reasoning is illogical. :)
 

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That same thing happened to me too. That's why me and my bf are moving at the end of the month. We've stayed at this apt. for 3 years b/c we didn't know if we wanted to move, etc. We kept renewing and everytime the rent would go up. Maybe it's b/c they figure that most people don't want to move once their settled in? It works b/c we never wanted to leave cause we're on 3rd floor too. :roll:
 

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Anybody have any advice on what I should say to them? I think we may try to talk to the manager since she should have more authority to change the price.
 

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I wish I could help you, Shannon, but who knows how the manager will react? If I were you, I'd be furious, and justifiably so. You do have an ace in the hole, because you know what other people would have to pay. There's no doubt the complex owner will lose money if they rent to a newcomer, because you're paying more than that now, aren't you?

However, they also have an ace in the hole. They can say, "OK, then move." You have to be prepared to have an alternate plan if that's what the manager says. She'd be foolish to say that, but the possibility is there. You're absolutely right about taking your husband with yuo. A united pair is better! Good luck. I really wish we could help you.

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They did this at my apartment on Long Island too.. My Rent was at X dollars, after one year they increased by about $50, and then another $50 the following year. Online, the price for the 1BR apartment had only gone up approx. $40 total in the 2 years. I think it is relatively common practice. They realize that you don't want to move, and they like to do rent increases, regardless of market value. I guess you have to ask yourself if it is worth the hassle of a big move to save a few hundred dollars for the year... Sometimes we do pay for convenience, and sometimes it's worth it. Good luck, I totally understand the frustration.
 

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I just can't believe this...is this what they do to all the elderly people living here that obviously live here for many years...up their rent $30 without question every year?!
As far as the rates going up, well they usually raise them according to the market rates - if the market rates increases, then they increase the rent. It sucks, but they have bills to pay too so I can't really fault them for that, but that isn't really the issue here right? It is the fact that they would charge less for a new renter, right?

Did you make sure that is not including any incentives and for your actual apartment or just the same floorplan where you live? Cuz for instance there is a $100-200 range where I live on the same floorplan based on where it is located, upstairs/downstairs, etc. Are you charged pet rent? Is there anything you guys are paying additional for that they may not have included when you got the quote?

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I just don't know the best way to go about doing this. I can't do it right now because when they asked me for my name when I was calling to find out the real prices, I had to think up a fake name really quickly and I accidentally gave them my real last name! :oops: What should I say to them? Should I mention that they will have to replace the carpet when we move since it was so crappy when we moved in and so they will save money by letting us stay? Should I mention that we have awful neighbors so unless they lower our rent we cannot justify staying? Should I threaten to just terminate this lease and start a whole new one at the lower rate they give to new people (at the same complex)? I will have my husband with me when I go in luckily. He is better at being mean to people, which is what I think we will have to do. Otherwise, they will just give me some stupid reason for why they are increasing the rates and I will say "Oh okay". Nobody gets away with that kind of stuff with my husband because he will explain to them how their reasoning is illogical. :)
A lot of how this is handled really depends on who the property manager is - is it a large corporation or is it a small private owner?

First of all, I would def not threaten or act angry... as they say, "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar." You can say you are disappointed and that you really wanted to stay but that you feel the rent is going to be too high and is there anything that can be done. Let them tell you, don't offer anything.

As for the last name, good move! lol ;) Hopefully your last name is "Smith" or "Jones". I would just mention that your sister in law had been looking around and she had told you and mentioned to you what they quoted and it appeared higher than even what you would be paying and ask if that is correct. Let them answer it and don't say anything else until it is answered - do they squirm or come up with an explanation right away.

Do they have any reasons that they would want you guys to move?

Even if your husband's business gets going in the next year, it takes time to look for a house so maybe if they say no to keeping the rent the same, you could offer to sign a year lease and see if they would do that?

It is good your husband is going with you. Remember tho that you don't have to be mean to be direct. Good luck!! :thumb
 

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Thanks. I plan on telling my husband to be nice about it...I just tend to be a pushover and I think people know that. I don't think the name thing will be that big of a deal since we will be talking to the manager and not the person I spoke with on the phone. We still have to find out when we can talk to the manager since they keep closing at 5:30, which is when I get home, even though they used to be open until 6:00.
We are not paying any pet rent or any other extras that I know of. I plan on making sure that they still have us down to be getting a discount since I work in a hospital...it is a little bit less.
There is absolutely no reason why they would not want us to keep renting. We always pay on time and even put up with the crappy neighbors they keep giving us (who play their music loud, stick their dogs on the balcony and let them bark all night, etc). They also stuck us with terrible carpet that is on its "last legs" so they will have to replace that when we move out. It really is to their benefit to keep us here.
We are thinking some more about how long we want to rent for...a year might be feasible, but its really impossible to know. I wish we could just go 6 months and then add another 6 months if we needed it, but I know they would raise our rates again.
Oh yeah, it is a larger place...so hopefully they still have some flexibility.
 

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Well, we went today. When we first went, the manager was not there and we spoke to someone stating that we wanted to speak to her about renewing for 9 months and that we really could not afford $25 more a month. She said we could talk to the manager later that afternoon.
Well, we came back later to talk to the manager and she was in her office.
The leasing agent we spoke with earlier came over and said she had talked to the manager and that there was nothing they could do...that it was their policy that they were increasing everyone's rent by $25 if they were not at the market rate already. I asked them what about the discount I should be getting for working in the medical field and they said I couldn't get it since you could only get it the first time you signed a lease. I told them I would still like to talk to the manager.
Well, we talked to her and I told her I couldn't afford the increase, etc and she said there was nothing they could do about it. I asked her about the medical discount and she found that I actually had never gotten one before and that she could give it to me now. So basically our rent went up by 1 or 2 dollars a month plus we get $100 off May's rent for signing a new lease. Wow! We are so lucky/blessed! It sounds like they would not have negotiated with us except for the fact that we hadn't gotten the discount before. I didn't even have to go into my spiel about how they would be saving money by us not moving out and how our neighbors were crappy.
 
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