I know this sounds a bit hokey, but if we want people to stay, they have to get more personal with each other. A list of members having birthdays each day and a Happy Birthday thread, started by anyone who wants, might help. We're not as close as I think we could. I think this is part of the reason people leave. When their good computer friends are at the site and they start emailing each other, they stay, in my experience. Of course cliques can start, but I don't mean cliques that leave others out, just people who REALLY like each other. There were many requests for prayer or good wishes where I used to be, but we are "friendly, formal here-if you know what I mean. We need to be more friendly and warm. What do you think?