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Three of our bunnies are home, and settling in well. We're picking up our other 6 next weekend. I have to say, Dave is so excited about this venture, and spends a great deal of time researching, and learning what needs to be done. I love that he's so excited! :thumb He's built some awesome pens, next it's the breeding boxes, and really, the way he built the pens, they aren't that much work to clean up after. Yay.........that makes me happy! :p
 

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Sad, not really. Realistic, really. :)

People eat meat. The chicken/pork/beef in grocery stores come from MUCH worse places than Geri's bunnies will be in. THAT is sad. :(

Geri, congrats on the bunnies! Did you see the thread with MowMow (chicken allergy) was able to eat raw chicken/bone/skin without a reaction!? YAY! Maybe you could start to do chickens as well. :) Oh! Oh! Or pigeons? Maybe even QUAIL! Quail is a protein not very common, but heckuva easy bird to raise.
 

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You have some very lucky cats!

I second that you should look into raising some quail as well...I don't have any myself but from what people say they are very easy to raise. I would assume that your cats wouldn't be allergic to them.
 

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Thanks Kelly and furryfriends! :) I was kind of shocked to see the way this thread was going when I came back to it today. Whether you raise it yourself, hunt for it, or buy it online, raw food is raw food, and you are doing the same thing yourself in one form or another, irregardless of if your pets food is dry, canned, or raw. It's a fact of life.

I would like to think that those of you who know me, would know that we treat our animals with the utmost of love and respect, and while the bunnies are in our care, they will be well cared for, and treated in an extremely humane manner. If you were to walk in my barn at ANY time during the day, it would be clean, plus all the animals have fresh food and water.

These particular bunnies that are here were purchased from a breeder who had them locked in a barn with a bunch of chickens, ducks, geese, and sick cats running around. We walked into this particular barn without knowing what we would see. There was crap all over, two cows locked in a stanchion with crap all over him, a llama, also covered in crap, and about 30 dogs in the house. They were in pens stacked one on top of the other, with about 3" of hay soaked with urine and feces, with urine that would fall through to the bottom one, and no food in sight. There was about 30 cages, and some had multiple bunnies in one. It stunk so bad in there, they probably didn't know what fresh air was! Here, these bunnies are living in a brand new cage larger than what they had, they have free choice hay, pellets every morning and night, and fresh water all day long! You can tell they are happy!

For everything that we have been through these last months, trying to get quality raw meat for my pets from these suppliers, this is the option we have chosen to do, and I think it's the best option for us.

I did not see MowMow's thread, but I'm anxcious to go read it now. It's funny, because just this morning I bought some chicken thighs from the meat market, and made a test mix with some chunked chicken in it. So knowing it's worked for MowMow, I am stoked!!!!!!! I will let you know the results. If it doesn't work, I'm almost thinking that something with the fat is upsetting their stomachs, and I may need to visit my vet again to see what we can do about that. With everything they've been through, I wouldn't doubt it.
 

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As someone who raised their family's beef, pork and eggs, I support you. I also especially liked your paralell regarding all pet foods and how their protein sources have to originate with an animal that had to be raised/butchered somewhere ... and at your farm, you can control that food animal's life to ensure it is a good one, free of misery or cruelty, before it serves its' ultimate purpose.
 

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Thanks Heidi, I appreciate that! :)

I really wish we had a larger barn because I'd get a couple more cattle in a heart beat! We raised a couple black angus back at our other farm, and it was THE best meat I ever had!!! :p
 

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Oh! The BEST steer I *ever* raised was an Angus. Surprisingly, he was also the friendliest and he would let me groom him with a stiff-bristle brush because he like me 'scratching' him.
 

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In case I wasn't clear, I wasn't trying to be discouraging, just silly, with inititial "nom nom nom" comment. ^_^

If you are planning on using asphyxiation euthanasia, you might be interested in reading about the use of helium instead of carbon dioxide. :)
 

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Geri, how are the buns doing? I thought of you today, because tomorrow I am going to our local live animal auction (every saturday!) to see about winning the kids some bunnies. Rabbit is expensive meat when it's already "done" for you, so we go buy the buns live and deal with them ourselves. If you need help "dealing" with them, let me know! I've done it a hundred times now, and am getting quite good. :)
 

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We always raised our own beef/pork when I was growing up. All the steers/piggies had names and were all cared for as pets. They had a lovely life (albeit a short one)...... The meat was always so much better tasting with our grass fed (and grain and apples and carrots and whatever else they were given by hand as treats)care.... We'd groom them and if I do some hunting I know SOMEWHERE I have a picture of me as a little kid sitting on the back of one of the steers in the pasture.

That said..I'm a complete hypocrite. I can eat them and enjoy them but NO way could I kill them myself. I'd love to feed MOwMOw organically raised and happy bunnies but...I doubt I could do the deed myself. :(
 

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I couldn't kill them myself, either, but respect others who can...no judgments here. You shoulda seen me trying to feed my cats the frozen mice...I am such a wuss! lol Yet, I have no problem butchering dead headless carcasses, but for some reason the mice gave me the heebie jeebies.

I admire you for going thru such lengths to feed your animals well. They are lucky indeed.
 

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LOL, Kelly! I never thought about going to those auctions before, we have them here too! That might be a good place to go to get some more breeding females too, or to get some meat animals so that I don't have to order more, and pay the shipping.

Have you ever had any issues with sick animals, or anything like that. I mentioned this to Dave, and that's the first thing he thought of. This breeder where we just bought our second group of rabbits from was a really clean facility, and has nice bunnies. Of course, we paid a good price for them too.

When you buy, do you stick with white or dark fur animals? I've been curious about the meat from either, because in the reading Dave has done, there is a difference, and people prefer the white fur animals. Of course, that could just be for human consumption, and not pets.

We're up to 10 bunnies now, 8 females, and 2 males. We'll be doing our first checks on 3 of the females with the older male this weekend. 2 of the females won't be breedable till may, and the other 3 were just weaned. We figured starting with 3 breeders would be great to get started, and figure out our process.

Yes, pm me with how you do the deed.
 
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