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If I had the power, I would make it illegal to own non-sterilized cats. I would provide free spay and neuter service to eliminate any financial excuse. And I would have a trap neuter release program along with cat feeders to control feral cats. My city's animal shelters would import cats from other cities as needed to provide pets for our citizens, but there would be no longer any need to kill cats to control their population.

Is anybody aware of a city that has successfully eliminated cat homelessness through some sort of regulations?
 

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People spaying and neutering and not letting their cats outside would end it pretty quickly. It doesn't matter what programs there are to help the existing feral cats if irresponsible people continue to allow their intact animals outside to continue to reproduce.


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There are some great movements in some urban areas: Kansas City, St Paul, Tampa.

The person to ask is Mitts & Tess. She has shared a lot of information here in the forum about different individual shelters, municipal animal control operations, and entire cities that embrace No-Kill (of which TNR is a huge part).

It follows (in my mind) that cat homelessness rates would drop after these type initiatives are in place.
 

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People spaying and neutering and not letting their cats outside would end it pretty quickly. It doesn't matter what programs there are to help the existing feral cats if irresponsible people continue to allow their intact animals outside to continue to reproduce.


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I agree with you, but has any city actually tried to enforce common sense among cat owners and succeeded? I know some cities require dogs to have tags showing they have their vaccinations. Why couldn't a city require cats to be sterilized and if an owner doesn't comply then the city takes the cat away to be sterilized and given to another home? Of course the city would provide free sterilization and free annual check-ups for all cats. (Maybe I should have called this thread "I have a dream" since this is MLK day. I suppose I'm dreaming, but I wonder if any city has done this?)
 

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While I like it there could be reasons for a cat not being fixed. For example- bad reaction to the anesthesia. Making them keep them inside-yes I could see that!! Honestly between me and a neighbor,trapping and TNR has helped. Also we found homes for the "problem" cats and it has helped keep the pop down where we live. I feel if some laws were put in place it would help cat populations go down!

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Also would it be where you had to have a license to breed? Have to actively do something to breed? If we sterilize all cats soon there will be none...yes there are millions in shelters but let say today ALL cats had to be fixed...in 20-30 years there could be no cats,at all! That's just my 2 cents though.

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I think with a dedicated, grass-roots effort and sufficient resources (i.e. $$$$$), it's possible to reduce the problem to miniscule levels within a municipality, so that it's essentially no longer a problem from a practical standpoint. But there's no way to completely eliminate it, IMO; there would simply be too much legal issues and bureaucracy involved enforcing S&N activities with personally-owned pets.

But as I mentioned, there's really no need to eliminate the problem entirely. If 95-99% of all homeless/stray/feral cats could be TNR'ed, this would be a monumental achievement in itself.
 

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While I like it there could be reasons for a cat not being fixed. For example- bad reaction to the anesthesia. Making them keep them inside-yes I could see that!! Honestly between me and a neighbor,trapping and TNR has helped. Also we found homes for the "problem" cats and it has helped keep the pop down where we live. I feel if some laws were put in place it would help cat populations go down!
Maybe cats that can't handle the anethesia could have an implant that releases hormones? I admire that you are helping with TNR. I need to start volunteering my time too.

Also would it be where you had to have a license to breed? Have to actively do something to breed? If we sterilize all cats soon there will be none...yes there are millions in shelters but let say today ALL cats had to be fixed...in 20-30 years there could be no cats,at all! That's just my 2 cents though.
After most of the cats are sterilized in the city, we would import cats as needed from other cities that do not have their cats sterilized yet. Eventually the number of cat births would be controlled to match the number of people who want cats ... somehow. (We'll cross that bridge when we come to it :) )
 

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If 95-99% of all homeless/stray/feral cats could be TNR'ed, this would be a monumental achievement in itself.
I agree it probably can't be eliminated completely. I have never lived anywhere that enforces any kind of pet ownership regulations. (Maybe the regulations exist but they aren't enforced). I wonder if there is a wealthy and progressive city somewhere where the government is providing its muscle in a big way to help solve the problem? And I wonder if it has been successful? Usually it is left to volunteers. Imagine if we left the fire department and police to unpaid volunteers.
 

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Just to add, I think that many cities already have requirements and by-laws regarding pet licensing which includes cats, and maybe even neuter/spay policies, but it's really up to each individual to to make sure they're following the rules, as there simply isn't enough resources to dedicate resources to enforce such a policy. As you can imagine, animal and pet control probably isn't high on the list of a city's problems to tackle. A quick look at municipal pet shelters will tell you how overwhelmed and inundated most of them are.

So it's up to well-intentioned individuals to form/participate in pet rescue organizations, to both tackle the immediate problem at a community level, and also raises awareness with local citizens and government. :)
 

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My city requires all dogs and cats to be registered, but it's nearly impossible to enforce. The cost associated with enforcing very in depth regulations would be extreme. Most cities can't even afford to run basic low cost spay/neuter programs yet alone to pay staff to go around checking for registration and altered pets. The province I grew up in only gets $3000 in government funding for all of the SPCA shelters annually. My fundraising group alone brought in over twice that amount each summer.
I also get uneasy thinking about government dictating what I have to do with my animals. I'm involved in showing pure bred dogs, so mandatory spay/neuter just doesn't sit well with me. It's like places that require rabies vaccines by 12 or 16 weeks. Sure, it ensures that dogs and cats aren't exposed to rabies, but it's horrible unsafe for the animal to receive the vaccine before six months of age.


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The province I grew up in only gets $3000 in government funding for all of the SPCA shelters annually.
$3000 for the whole province? I wonder how many shelters are expected to share that $3000? It reminds me of the cartoon "Mickey and the Beanstalk" where the starving Mickey, Donald, and Goofy are trying to carve paper-thin slices from a single bean to share among themselves.

I didn't know that about rabies vaccines. There is a lot I learn on this forum actually. :)
 

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If I had the power, I would make it illegal to own non-sterilized cats.
If theoretically such a law would be passed, I would IGNORE it and do everything in my power to get it removed. It is a very very very bad idea.

It's like making sure the cat doesn't destroy your furniture by locking him/her in a cage 24/7. it's a very wrong approach.

For wild cat populations mandatory TNR is indeed a very good solution, not because it's great in itself, but because it's the lesser of 2 evils. But for owned cats educating the owners to not allow their cats free would be much better. If that is not an option, THEN neuter/spay is the acceptable alternative.

I personally will NOT have Seven neutered because it's someone's policy. He is a strictly indoor cat with no chance whatsoever of ever touching a lady. The only thing that might lead to him getting neutered is if he looks like he's suffering from unfulfilled hormone induced desire. But that will only happen after puberty and is a last resort. The hormones created by the genital organs are just as important at those from the thyroid gland. I will most certainly not have him neutered early before his body grows the way nature meant it.
 

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IMO, stray cats will always be around as long as there are irresponsible pet owners who don't spay/neuter.

There is always going to be SOMEONE who says, "My cat will never go outside" and doesn't take into account how much drive those hormones give cats to breed. Part of being cat guardians is doing what is best for them, not what we would want done for us.
 

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I hate the idea. If I want to allow my cat to breed that's my business and not yours. One of the biggest problems we have in society is people deciding they know what's best for the rest of us.
I've always said that I don't think any governmental body should legislate against stupidity. My prime example was motorcycle helmets. I received a kidney transplant because someone was either too stupid to know to wear a helmet or was too stupid to follow the law about helmets (depending on which state the organ came from). He was essentially only hurting himself (and indirectly hurting other insurance payers who were affected by his statistic). In that sense, I agree with this.

But cats are different. Allowing the irrational person's decision of keeping a cat unaltered puts an undue burden (increased cancer risk, behavior swings, traumatized to not be able to get outside) on the cat. Also the repercussions of allowing unaltered cats to breed without controls creates affects human society in general as cats will get to a stage of being labeled a nuisance population instead of a companion animal. In this case the victim isn't just the stupid person, it's the cat and cats at large.

This is why sometimes laws are created. Not for the sane, thinking cat owner who may be part of the majority. But for the delinquent pet owner who cannot logically consider consequences of (in)actions.
 

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One of the biggest problems we have in society is people deciding they know what's best for the rest of us.
This is different, as Nebraska said (although, way more politely than I will) If you want to break a law like not wearing a helmet and die... that's your business. I couldn't give a rat's patoot and I find that a perfect example of darwinism... but innocent cats shouldn't suffer.

If people are too ignorant or too arrogant to live up to their responsibilities then the law needs to step in and make them do it.
 

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If you want to break a law like not wearing a helmet and die... that's your business.
Off topic detour...

Living in a state with no helmet law, this topic comes up often around here. It's not my business as long as they die. But when they end up in the hospital with no medical insurance and end up brain damaged, needing long term care and the state ends up paying...yeah it's my business.
 

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My city requires all cats to be spayed and neutered unless the owners have purchased breeding rights (I'd assume with a purebred cat). In practice, it does not stop people from having unneutered cats or getting unneutered cats from the paper or online. However, there is only one shelter in the city and all cats come spayed/neutered from there. The shelter is no-kill, with a cat sanctuary to back it up when they get cats that are no adoptable or aren't getting adopted for whatever reason (the cat sanctuary won the bid for the city shelter, so they're run by the same organization). The city does TNR as well, the shelter also has organized feeding stations in some areas that volunteers will go to daily to feed cats. Adoption is expensive, there are also papers to fill out to make sure you're a good candidate and in the contract cats must remain indoor only. As for dogs... the city also has enforced bylaws against chaining dogs up outdoors and against selling dogs in pet stores, and dogs must be licensed. Last year the shelter entered a national contest and won something like 25 thousand (totally forget the amount won...) and it all went towards low cost spay and neuter.

The bylaws seem to be working -- the one pet store that sold dogs in the city went out of business without them, and the cat sanctuary started at over 900 cats and it's now around 700... the majority of the cats are starting to get into their teens that are located there (the sanctuary has been around over a decade); of course more cats are being add all the time, but it's at a slower rate.

I can could on my hands the number of cats I've seen outdoors (two of which are now my cats...). Pretty much no one has outdoor cats around here, I know feral cats usually hide from humans, but I've rarely seen or heard signs of them.

Honestly, the worst problem in this city right now is rabbits. Right now we have a serious rabbit problem... the shelter will not turn away any animal surrendered to their care, so they have A LOT of rabbits. There are way too many rabbits in this city, it is out of control.

I don't think homeless/feral cats will ever be eradicated though... where there's a will not to neuter your animal, there's always going to be a way for them to breed.
 
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