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Cat Asthma? Allergies? FIV? I'm scared.

6.3K views 19 replies 7 participants last post by  emilyatl  
#1 ·
I apologize in advance for the rambling but I'm in a really bad place.

When I first got my cat 3 years ago, she was very healthy. Then a little less than a year after I adopted her, she started sneezing a lot. Sometimes discharge would come out of her nose but it was always clear. I took her to the vet who said she sounded fine and that perhaps it was allergies. She suggested pediatric benadryl. I got a super expensive air purifier and she seemed to fluctuate from being okay to having these sneezing fits. I finally decided to try the pediatric benadryl but I don't think I gave her enough because I was afraid to give her the full dose of what the doctor prescribed (since my cat wasn't the same weight as she was when the dr prescribed the dosage).

Occasionally she'd cough but mostly it was a sneezing fit and her breathing became labored. She never panted but you could hear her breathing heavy. it all seemed nasal. She snored a lot (even when she was awake). So this has happened intermittently for the last couple of years.

I live someplace where allergies are bad for every human that has ever passed through here. I am surrounded by vineyards that regularly get sprayed with chemicals. There are lots of grasses and various forms of plant life. I have the worst allergies I've ever had since I've lived here. I live in a "granny unit" (converted garage) and it's terribly insulated in here. I really want to move but I am stuck right now because of cash flow problems.

Recently my cat's breathing seems to have become worse. Rather than intermittently, she's always having problems breathing. I can't play with her because exercise causes the loud breathing. I took her to the vet who said she couldn't know what it was without running tests. She could only speculate. She said it could be an immune deficiency virus like FIV, could be asthma although she said asthma is usually more bronchial and my cat's lungs sound okay. The problem seems mostly upper respiratory. Otherwise, my cat is in great condition. Whenever my cat sneezes and discharge comes out of her nose, it's not discolored. The doctor said it could be a fungal infection which is hard to treat. Basically, she needs to run more tests. She suggested a chemistry panel but I cannot afford that. I was laid off and have had a hard time finding a job. This recent appointment was charged and I don't know how I will pay for it. She did give my cat a depomedrol shot and put my cat on a antiobiotics regimen (doxycyclin) and also gave me a nasal flush solution.

I'm so depressed. I am worried that my cat has FIV or something serious. I hate not knowing what is causing this and I'm freaking out because I have no money to treat her.

I'm wondering if moving someplace that isn't so susceptible to "stuff" (for lack of a better word) would fix the problem or if my cat's condition isn't associated with where we live.

I'm wondering if anybody has experienced anything similar with their cat. What did it turn out to be?
 
#2 ·
Coughing? Heavy breathing? Snoring? Exercize intolerance? Did the vet listen to her heart? Any heart murmurs?
 
#4 · (Edited)
There is such a negative stigma around FIV. Cats with FIV can live very healthy, normal lives with regular vet visits. I have a feral I just took in who I found out was FIV+, and I went through the freak-out stage initially, but have since learned a lot about the disease and visited a local FIV cat sanctuary where there are many cats who are well into their teen years and very healthy. So, even if it is FIV, don't freak out (like I did :))!

There are a lot of common symptoms in FIV cats. Most of them have some sort of gum/dental issues. Gingivitis (red, swollen gums), and bad breath are very common in FIV cats (my vet said that every cat she's ever seen with FIV had dental issues even very early in the disease). Eye/nose discharge (kind of goopy, sticky) is also very common with FIV cats. In general, they are just more sickly than other cats because their immune systems are weakened and they are much more susceptible to infection. So if your cat's only symptom is sneezing, I wouldn't just immediately jump to FIV. You might call around local TNR groups and see if they have low-cost testing. Typically FIV is tested with FeLV (feline leukemia) in what's called a SNAP/combo test. The TNR group in my area does the test for $20 (which is about $40 cheaper than most vets).

It really sounds more like allergies (or allergy-induced asthma) to me (particularly since you mention allergies are common where you live). Did the steroid shot help at all with her breathing? If it were allergies/asthma, I would expect that to help since it's an anti-inflammatory.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
Magic (my kitty) has perfect teeth... (they're nicer than mine even). She does have discharge that constantly leeks out of one of her eyes and it's been doing that since I adopted her. My vet did tell me that cats with FIP can still live long lives but it would still be very stressful and vets are so expensive. I was just hoping that this cat would not have problems like my previous two (one died of lymphoma, the other FIP). She's still very young (not even 4).

The steroid shot has helped. I noticed an improvement about a few hours after we got home. She's sleeping now and not snoring at all.

My gut tells me it is allergies/asthma but I guess the reason my doctor is reluctant to diagnose this is because it's mostly upper respiratory and she said most feline asthma induces coughing fits. Also, the breathing has consistently been labored for the last few days (until now).
 
#6 ·
My marshall has bad allergies...normally he sneezes and its clear, but 72 weeks ago...he was sneezing harder and all this (sorry..pretty gross) thick discharge out his nose :( he looked like a lil kid (started calling him snot face). In another 10 minutes a heavy sneeze and more "stuff". Went to the vet...gave him a shot and an antibiotic. Marshall is also on an allergy pill 1x/day (was 2x/day). He is much better :) never heard him with labored breathing. I try and give L-ystine (spelled wrong) to help their immune system. I do that gel...and they love it (I pretend its a treat...shhhh)

He is much more playful...running around like a spazz...I'm glad cuz I'm watching his weight. I also suffer with sinus and allergy issues...but I'm never going to leave NY....but that's me.

Try not to worry. Maybe the vet cn put you on a payment plan. Maybe you can borrow money from friends family. Hoping your kitty feels better soon :)
 
#8 ·
Thanks for your response. What is L-ystine?

She is breathing better but still a little bit labored. I was holding her a few minutes ago and listing very closely. Earlier when I took her to the vet, her breathing was really loud. You could here the blockage in her nasal passage, Now.. not nearly as bad but still not normal. A very slight snoring noise.
 
#9 ·
Cat Lysine or L-Lysine for cats is used to treat upper respiratory problems or feline herpes. Not only can it improve their upper respiratory infection (URI) symptoms, but also inflammation of the eyes and conjunctivitis (eye discharge) caused by feline herpes.

When her breathing is really laboured, take her into a bathroom, close the door, and run really hot water. The steam helps.
 
#11 ·
FIP is VERY different from FIV. FIP is Feline Infectious Peritonitis, and is a very terrible, deadly disease. FIV is Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (similar to HIV in humans). FIP is caused by the coronavirus, but there's not really a definitive test for FIP other than diagnosing by symptoms. Cats with FIP usually experience severe weight loss, depression, anemia, fever, and lethargy (they can also have very bloated bellies due to fluid retention if it's the "wet" form of FIP). Normally by the time it's diagnosed, they are in advanced stages of the disease. Despite the name, it's actually not contagious to other cats.

FIV is completely different, and is, as I mentioned similar to HIV in humans. It's really only transmitted through fighting (which is why it's most common in outdoor/feral/stray male cats who fight regularly). There IS a test for FIV (several actually - SNAP, ELISA, and Western blot). This is the disease I was referring to (and what I assume your vet was referring to as well - because most cats with FIP do not live long after diagnosis). I'm assuming you were referring to FIV as well, but just wanted to make sure you knew the difference...

If the steroid helped, it sounds to me like allergies (or allergy-induced asthma). Did the benadryl help at all when you gave her that?
 
#12 · (Edited by Moderator)
I was reluctant to give my cat the benadryl and since she never had a super bad fit, I didn't bother. I just ran the air purifier constantly. By the time I finally felt compelled to give her the benadryl because she was having a fit that did not seem like it was likely to pass, almost a year had passed since I saw the vet. She had lost a couple of pounds (the vet had told me she was overweight and put her on a diet). So I gave her a very modest dose as to not give her too much. All she did was give me attitude and keep spitting it up and then she hid under the bed.

Thanks for the tip on the Lysine! I will definitely run it by my vet. It looks to be more of a natural remedy which I definitely prefer (one of the reasons I was reluctant to give her the benadryl).

My vet explained the diff between FIP/FIV to me. Losing my kitten to FIP was heartbreaking for me. In fact, I didn't adopt another cat for well over a year because I was so scarred from that experience (and I LOVE cats more than any creature on this earth). It was a bad year. My mom died, my cat died a few months later from cancer, my nephew died shortly after and the day after my kitten died of FIP. This all happened in less than a year and I really thought I would lose it at the end of that year. It took a lot for me to adopt a cat after all that and I take such good care of her. Feed her only the highest quality of food, natural cat litter. I try to do everything the books tell me to do so I have a cat that lives a long, healthy life so this development has really put me in a funk. I will love my Magic even if she has FIV but I don't know if i can deal with the stress anymore. I probably sound very weak. I guess I am.
 
#13 ·
You should really try L-lysine. You can help kitty feel better by just using 250mg daily, in some severe cases, some have used upto 500mg daily. I'm not sure how much is too much to give on a long term basis to the extent of getting L-arginine depletion. 250mg should be safe, but I'm sure about 500mg.

You can either buy those meant for cats or buy those for human, I know only of 2 brands Vitacost and NOW pure L-lysine powder for human. I use NOW brand lysine powder and I give 250mg daily and it does help to delay a flare-up. On a flare-up, I just up dosage to 500mg for a couple days. I always have Colloidal Silver on hand for use to clean up the eye when it gets sore and for internal use too during a flareup just to prevent secondary infection cos my ET is FIV+.
 
#14 ·
Ok, just wanted to make sure you knew the difference since I know a lot of people get them confused. Nowadays, most cats can live well over 10 years old with FIV (provided they're not exposed to other sick cats, the outdoors, etc.). If your kitty is an indoor cat and well cared for, there's no reason she can't live a long life. At the FIV cat sanctuary I visited, the average age of the cat there was 9 years old! And they were all perfectly healthy. When I found out Monkey was FIV+, I was devastated (he's only a year old), but the more research I did on it, talked to my vet, etc., the better I felt about it. Even if your girl is FIV+, you can have Magic around for MANY, MANY years. I think we all know it's hard to lose a cat, that definitely doesn't make you weak!

I give my cat who's FIV+ L-Lysine as well. I also give him Omega 3 fatty acids (he was previously an outdoor cat and has a really dry coat and dry paw pads). Omega 3s can be beneficial in treating a number of inflammatory issues (including allergies and asthma). You might ask your vet about adding that supplement to your cat's diet as well.
 
#17 ·
Thanks for the tips. Magic's vet gave the go ahead to give her both Lysine and Omega 3 fatty acids. So you give your kitty the Omega 3 via a dropper? Do you find that she likes the taste or does she reject it? Magic makes it very difficult to administer liquid medicine to. She closes her mouth. perhaps she doesn't like the taste of the Doxicycline.

She is doing much better. The doctor wants to keep her on steroids which kind of scares me because I know there are long term effects of depo medrol. I'm supposed to let her know when the symptoms return. That's why I want to start her on Lysine and Omega 3 fatty acids. Perhaps they will keep the symptoms away so Magic will never have to take steroids again.
 
#16 ·
Stephy - I use Nordic Naturals. They have a small size that comes with a dropper in it and lasts me 4 months (the larger size doesn't come wiht the measurer/droper, but you can buy the smaller size and just refill it if you have more than one cat who takes it). There's a chart her on proper dosage by weight:

NORDIC NATURALS :: NORDIC PET :: PROFESSIONAL

They also make soft gels, but I just find the liquid easier to administer.
 
#18 ·
I wouldn't recommend trying to give them the oil directly from the dropper - I just likk the dropper because it has measurements clearly shown on the it. I put the Omega 3s on my cats' wet food and mix it in. It really doesn't have much of a fishy taste like the human gel caps do (ost cats actually find regular fish oil (i.e., the caps) to be TOO fishy believe it or not). The Nordic Naturals one doesn't have much of a flavor/smell.

I'd be hesitant to leave my cat on Depo-Medrol long term. I had a kitty who was on it long-term for cancer, but he was terminal and it was just to keep him comfortable and help with inflammation. If your cat is relatively young and otherwise healthy, I'd ask for other options (once you get a definitive diagnosis).

And yes, Doxycycline is QUITE bitter/foul tasting. So, I'm not surprised she doesn't like it. You could try putting some tuna juice in with the liquid to see if that helps, but in my experience, there's not much that can be done to mask the flavor of some liquid meds...
 
#19 ·
I hope this works and I wish I knew about L-Lysine if it works the same for dogs. My little dog had allergies. I also ran a purifier in my bedroom at night and kept it closed up so it would work well. You need to change filters when needed or it can work the opposite way. He lived a long time with this condition and it certainly wasn't what caused his eventual death at 16.
I had oral prednisone but tried to taper it off any time I could. You can't just stop it cold turkey if its the same type of cortisone. There are inhalers but they are expensive and you need an adapter and a cat that would allow it. I knew my dog would but due to other problems we never got that far. Before that I had a nebulizer which throws a mist that you hold under their nose and you measure and inject the liquid with the medicine so it doesn't go through the entire system. I don't know if these are options and it did cost so don't worry about it now. I am pulling for the L-Lysine for your cat.
 
#20 ·
I don't know that the L-Lysine will do much for allergies (I think that was recommended when it was thought it could be FIV). It definitely does help boost their immune system and can help them get over colds quicker (I have taken it myself when I felt like I was getting a cold), so I don't think it will hurt anything, I just don't know that it will do much for allergies...