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My name is Mario and I would like to tell everyone here hello!

I signed up with this forum to get some help/information about my female cat "GeGe" as she may have lung cancer! :(

I have researched a lot on the internet searching for answers, but I believe that joining this forum will give me the best options as to what the next steps should be with my cat's health!:crying:

I will wait patiently for one of the moderators/administrators to approve my membership, so that I can post in the proper place about my questions and concerns!

Wishing you all the best! :smile2:

Sincerely,

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Hi Mario,

Your post has been approved and moved here. I'm so sorry about the possible diagnosis. Will they be doing more testing to confirm? I've honestly never heard of lung cancer in a kitty before so am hesitant to say anything about it. I do know of quite a few kitties with other types of cancer, and in some types (small cell lymphoma), cats are treated with chemotherapy and do quite well.

Oops. Right after I posted that, I remembered this website. It has not been updated in quite some time, but it may have some basic information for you, and I noticed that it talks about secondary lung cancer. http://www.harpsie.com/cancer.htm
 

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Hello Spirite,

My cat GeGe is an 11 year old female cat that may or may not have cancer! :( I brought her to the vet about a month ago, and she had blood work and X-rays done. The blood work looked to be OK, but the X-ray showed that either it could be tumors starting, or possibly a bacterial infection. She was given Enrofloxacin and I gave her a pill every day for 20 days. She still had a cough and phlegm in her throat/chest area. I have also been given her antihistamine pills (Hydroxyzine) as prescribed by the vet.

I brought her back to the vet this past Monday, and the vet said she seemed to be doing better, as she did gain a pound back along with other signs! So she gave her a steroid shot that was supposed to kick in around 24 hours. This shot was supposed to last around 3 weeks or so. So, the next day, my cat seemed to be doing better. Her rattle breathing was almost gone and she appeared to be feeling better. The next day, she seemed to be feeling a little worst and the rattle seemed to come back, but it wasn't as bad as it has been.

My cat still is eating a little, but not as much as she used to. I have also been giving her some brown nutrient paste along with the antihistamine that was prescribed by the vet. She seems to do better outside, rather then inside. As of today, she has vomited a little, and she appears that when she tries to lay her head down to sleep, that the phlegm in her throat makes her start to cough. She will lift her head up, and begins to open her mouth some to get air. I also notice that she swallows and makes motions with her mouth.

At this point, I am not sure what to do??? I know that she doesn't feel well, and was hoping that after the last visit to the vet, she would be getting better! As I said, the vet seemed to think that because of her signs, she was showing that perhaps the X-rays were not cancer. I am not certain at this point!

Could someone give me advice or tell me what may be going on here with my cat??? It would be deeply appreciated! I do have a copy of her X-rays and blood work. I could upload it here if someone would like to see it?

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Hi Mario,

As I said, I really don't have any experience with lung (or heart) issues in kitties, but just to make sure I've understood:

GeGe's symptoms are coughing, with phlegm, a rattling sound and some distress breathing, and lack of appetite?

Did the symptoms start around the time you first brought her to the vet a month ago?

The vet first thought something on x-ray might be tumors, or a bacterial infection, but now she doesn't think whatever she saw is cancer? Did the vet tell you what she saw? Was she the one who looked at the x-rays? If so, I would recommend that you have them sent to a veterinary radiologist for interpretation. Vets are general practitioners; I know they can read the basics, but I've always had my kitties' x-rays sent out to be read by a specialist who may see things that a regular vet doesn't.

GeGe didn't really improve on Baytril, so the vet crossed bacterial infection off the list of possibilities. The antihistamine and steroid are in case she has allergies? Are you still giving the antihistamine?

Since you say her breathing seems to improve when she's outdoors, I'm wondering if it's an allergy to something in her environment. Were there any changes around the time that the symptoms started? New plants, cleaning products, detergent, soap, litter, etc.? I'm assuming you haven't changed her food.

If she's having trouble breathing, and she's coughing, she may also be congested and not able to smell her food. That may be why she isn't eating well. You could try warming her food a little, or adding something super stinky, like the liquid from a tin of sardines, to her food.

Congested kitties can also benefit from spending about 15 minutes in a steamy bathroom. But I'm hesitant to recommend that in case it makes her breathing worse.

I'm not an expert on bloodwork, and most of knowledge pertains to kidney disease, pancreatitis, infections, but I'd be happy to take a look if you post the lab results.
 

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Hello Spirite,

Thank you very much for your concern and information!

The vet that I bring her to is also a surgeon. I'm not sure how much she really knows as compared to an oncologist? She was the one that took the X-rays and also gave me the results. When they had called me back to come in and discuss the recent results, she started with the blood work first. Told me that for the most part, her blood work was OK. Then she talked about the X-rays and brought me in the back to show me what she thought she had saw. GeGe had had another X-ray taken in November 2017, as she was having trouble with her bowels moving due to hair balls. That X-ray that was taken back then (2017) was compared to the recent X-rays. She pointed out that the lungs in the 2017 X-ray to be clear, compared to the recent X-rays.

She pointed out that the recent X-rays had whitish spots that were not there in the 2017 ones. That is what was very concerning to the vet. So she said that it looks like it may be the cancer or the beginning of tumors, or it could be a bacterial infection. That is when she started GeGe on Clavamox. I tried given her the pills, but they were making her vomit, so the vet changed over to Enrofloxacin. I gave her one pill everyday for 20 days. I was also giving GeGe the antihistamine pills as well.

It does seem like when she is with me at night, as she most always sleeps in bed with me, she doesn't seem to get good sleep like she used to. She will stare ahead, then look to the right and the left as if she may have anxiety? Then I notice that when she lays her head down to try and sleep, a little while later she will begin to cough, then she puts her head upward and will open her mouth as to breath better.

What has me puzzled is that when she was brought to the vet this past Monday, the vet seemed to think that she was showing signs that this may not be cancer, as the vet said there would be no signs of improvements with cancer!

She definitely has something going on, just not sure what? She also started getting a little nauseated and I could hear her trying to vomit last night, but nothing actually came out?

I also wanted to say that before GeGe had became ill with this coughing and congestion, that she had worms from fleas in her stomach. I was given (2) pills that were supposed to kill any types of worms that may have been inside her. I then started giving her the Frontline Plus that you pour on the skin in between the shoulder blades. Not sure if these toxins can cause ill effects!

Anyhow, to answer your questions here:

GeGe's symptoms are coughing, with phlegm, a rattling sound and some distress breathing, and lack of appetite?
Yes, but she does eat some and I also give her a nutrient/calorie supplement

Did the symptoms start around the time you first brought her to the vet a month ago?It may have started a few weeks earlier

GeGe didn't really improve on Baytril, so the vet crossed bacterial infection off the list of possibilities. The antihistamine and steroid are in case she has allergies? Are you still giving the antihistamine? I take it that the vet has crossed off the bacterial infection, as the symptoms are still there. I presume the steroid was given for for both allergies as well as possible inflammation. I am still giving GeGe the antihistamines

Since you say her breathing seems to improve when she's outdoors, I'm wondering if it's an allergy to something in her environment. Were there any changes around the time that the symptoms started? New plants, cleaning products, detergent, soap, litter, etc.? I'm assuming you haven't changed her food. I'm not saying that her breathing improves outside, it just appears that she seems to be more content outside in the heat. She doesn't seem like she has anxiety as bad outside? If that makes any sense. She appears not to cough as much, but she still has that rattle sound in her chest. It also appears that when I get close to her or pet her, is when she must get more excited, and then she begins to show more rattle sounds and usually will cough after. Not certain about the cleaning products, as I really don't think I have used anything new. I did get some peppermint extract to spray for smells? Not certain that could cause this? She does go outside in the back and will eat grass. I also noticed that they have some wild mushrooms starting to grow. Not sure if she would eat them, but never know! She is still eating the Party mix treats, so nothing new as food. Today is a bad day as she is not wanting to eat. I had given her some of the party mix treats, but she refuses to eat. I also gave her the antihistamines earlier, so maybe she will eat later.

I really appreciate your help, and hopefully my GeGe will get better!!! Hope you have a blessed day! :)

BR,

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Hi Mario,

I only have a couple of minutes so just skimmed your post, but for right now, I wanted to ask whether that peppermint spray has any essential oils in it? Essential oils are toxic to kitties, so I'd check the ingredients to make sure about that.

Again, I don't know anything specifically about the lungs but will be back later to try to offer some suggestions.
 

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Hi spirite,

I believe it was an essential oil..:( I hope that didn't cause this illness! I had no idea about it being toxic! Oh boy, I will never spray anything like that again.

Thanks again! I will wait for your reply back!
 

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Hi Mario,

The essential oil may have nothing to do with GeGe's current issues; I don't know how/what type of symptoms would indicate an adverse reaction, but essential oils are definitely not good for kitties. Maybe the risk is exaggerated and/or adverse reactions are very rare, but I'd probably mention this to the vet so that she's aware. GeGe wasn't ingesting any, which I imagine is much more toxic.

The bloodwork really doesn't seem to show anything unusual, as your vet said. Low ALP and elevated amylase aren't usually things to be concerned about, nor is the low eosinophil count. The only thing that may or may not mean anything is the low sodium.

Despite the fact that the vet is a surgeon, I wouldn't take that to mean that she's an expert at reading x-rays. You might ask her if additional imaging, like an ultrasound, CT scan, or MRI, could help to identify what those spots are. And if you do additional imaging, I would definitely make sure that they are being sent to a veterinary radiologist for interpretation. Any kind of imaging - x-rays, CT, MRI - is only as useful/informative as the skill of the person interpreting the images. I have two surgeons at a top cancer hospital and have had a ton of CT and MRI scans, and the surgeons rely on the radiologist's report. An oncologist would only be necessary if GeGe does have cancer. He'd be the one to recommend treatments but definitely not the person you want reading x-rays or scans.

It sounds like there are a lot of other variables, between the worms, the dewormer, the flea med, plus the antihistamine and steroid - though you know that the antihistamine and the steroid didn't cause the issues to begin with. The thing is, I have no idea what sorts of side effects could be caused, whether lung/breathing issues are among the side effects of any of these, but I would follow up with the vet on whether the worms, dewormer or flea med could be causing GeGe's issues. I will say that my kitty was one of the 0.5% of cats who have an adverse reaction to Revolution, which is supposed to be the safest flea med, so a reaction to a medication is absolutely possible. In my kitty's case, it was lethargy and inappetance, not issues with breathing, but kitties have different reactions, so who knows?

Do you know what kind of worms she had, and what dewormer she was given? Was she rechecked to make sure the worms were gone? If so, how?

As for being outside, yes I get what you mean, but it could be that she seems more at ease precisely because she's having less trouble breathing. She may still have the rattle in her chest, but maybe it's easier for her to get more air into her lungs? Shifting position is definitely a sign of discomfort, and her movements could be her way of trying to make it easier for her to breathe.

I'm just throwing out some ideas, and I'm not an expert, but I'm trying to go through the stuff that I would do if this were my kitty. After talking to your vet about whether further imaging could help with a diagnosis (and the essential oils, and worms, etc.), my next step would be to see if there was a university near me with a veterinary program. They would likely have a hospital and specialists; I think they usually take clients, and some offer phone consultations.

Is that a possibility for you?
 

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Hi spirite,

Thanks once again for your compassion and info! So nice to have someone like yourself that wants to help others/cats in need!

I live around the New Orleans area, so perhaps I can ask the vet who she might recommend that is a specialist for reading X-rays for cats! I will bring up the worms and meds for worms, and also the flea med. I'll also ask her if she thinks that GeGe should have CT scan or MRI to further check out her lungs.

I don't have pet insurance, so hopefully I can find some place around here that could perhaps help me out some, or even a payment plan. These vet trips are getting expensive!

I'll post back here after I have talked with her about these things and will let you know. I can't thank you enough for your help and concern! Take care! :)

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Don't forget ultrasound when you ask about imaging. I don't know which type of imaging is best for what, just that ultrasound, CT and MRI scans give more detailed info than x-rays. Ultrasounds are pretty pricey, I think, but probably far less so than CT/MRI.

Have you looked into CareCredit? It's not going to give you any money, but it gives you a certain amount of time to pay back without any interest. There must also be resources online that list organizations you might apply to for financial help. Yes, kitty care can get really expensive, especially when you're going through the diagnostic phase. Hopefully, the treatment will be far less expensive!

Since you're near New Orleans, that should be a plus for locating a veterinary school. Tulane? LSU? Others? You could look them up and see what services they offer.

I'll take a look at that link tomomrrow. :)
 

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First, remember that you don't have a firm diagnosis, and that the vet currently doesn't think it's cancer because GeGe had shown improvement. So please try not to go to a worst-case scenario and completely freak yourself out (I know, much easier said than done).

I know you want to start doing something, anything, right away. But it would probably be more helpful to start by doing some research into what masses in lungs could mean, and cancer in cats in general. Maybe you'd get some ideas about potential avenues to explore with the vet?

That said, I am a big believer in natural/alternative/complementary therapies for cancer, have done a ton of research, and for *most* of them, there's no harm in being proactive and giving them as a just-in-case. But I would poke around to see what supplements are recommended specifically for the lungs, because some are better for one type of cancer, or one specific organ, etc.

I checked out the website, and the first thing I'll say is that a supplement for pets that also exists for humans will cost more, which is pretty ironic given that often the only benefit of getting the pet-specific one is that it comes in pet-sized doses - ie, there's less of the product. However, sometimes they're worth it if they have a flavor enhancer for pets and/or it would be hard to give to your kitty in pill form.

Milk thistle you can buy at any pharmacy. For cats, the general rule is about 1/10 of a human dose. If it comes in capsule form, you can break apart the capsule and give approximately 1/10 of the powder. It is thought to have anti-cancer properties but is mostly used to support liver function.

For the other two, I would first find out what ingredients they contain. And if they don't specify the ingredients, and the quantities of each, I would definitely not get them.

I can go more into detail if you like, but I'll stop there before I get carried away. :D

And remember, none of this may be necessary! Please keep us posted on what your vet says. I have my fingers crossed for you and GeGe!
 

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Hello spirite,

I did call the vet earlier today, but they told me they had been very busy. If I didn't get a call from the vet today, it will be tomorrow. I will post back what the vet says to do at this point. I know she will want to make another appointment $$$ and check GeGe out again. The next time I go in, I want answers! This may or may not be stuff is driving me nuts!

I was thinking on the option of trying to get a radiologist that can say weather or not it is cancer or not! Then if it is cancer, I guess a biopsy will tell rather or not it is malignant or benign!

I will try and do more research on lung issues with cats to see if I can come up with a better understanding.

BTW, GeGe didn't eat much at all yesterday, so today she still didn't want to eat her favorite Party Mix, so I gave her some of the brown paste nutrient/Calorie formula along with the antihistamine pill crushed up with it, and syringe feed it to her.. It took a few hours later for her to finally eat her Party mix. I will continue to offer the treats to keep her eating some. I will also continue to give her the antihistamine pill twice a day along with the nutrient paste.

I'll get back here a little later with more info. I have to run an errand now. Thanks again! You are very kind!

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OK, the vet said that I should bring GeGe in to get another X-ray to compare to the last one. This should show if there are any improvements or if it looks like it has gotten worse! :(

GeGe has been eating a little, but seems to vomit some back up. She hasn't really been vomiting up until the last few days! I am still giving here the antihistamine along with the nutrient/calorie stuff. I did order the herbs/vitamins liquid which has the following ingredients in it:

Burdock – Considered one of the best nutritive herbs, burdock is a healthy food. Burdock is high in calcium, iron, riboflavin, phosphorous and thiamine. The herb, Burdock supports the liver and help cleanse and improve blood quality. It has been used historically to help with any type of metabolic disorder that may be due to the body’s inability to eliminate toxins. Studies have shown that burdock has free-radical scavenging properties.


Sheep’s Sorrel – An excellent source of vitamins such as A , B complex and C, D, E and K and minerals. Sheep's Sorrel has been used to treat cancer and other degenerative diseases. This herb helps boost the immune system. Sheep's Sorrel contains beta-carotene which is high in antioxidants, this helps increase the production of white blood cells and T-cells.

Slippery Elm – Helps eliminate toxins and waste by lubricating the digestive tract. Slippery Elm is high in minerals such calcium, magnesium and sodium and vitamins. Slipery Elm contains anti-inflammatory properties, and aids in soothing irritations of the stomach.

Chinese Rhubarb – The astringent properties of Chinese Rhubarb help with appetite and is beneficial in helping the body eliminate toxins by cleansing the intestines and removing waste from the bowels. This herb not only cleanses the intestinal tract, it also helps by improving bile flow of the liver, and improves gallbladder function, while building and cleaning the blood.

I also ordered some bone broth from the same company:
https://www.nhvnaturalpetproducts.com/Products/low-sodium-bone-broth-safe-for-pets-cats-dogs-real-chicken-flavour.aspx

It should be here Friday, hopefully. If not, then Monday. They said that by giving her the bone broth, it should make her want to eat better. And also the ES-Clear has had very good results! So, we shall see.

Thanks again Spirite! You have been a blessing!

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Hi Mario,

Oh no, I'm sorry to hear GeGe is vomiting more. I would definitely call the vet tomorrow. If she's not eating because her breathing, or phlegm, is making it difficult, that really needs to get resolved. When kitties go for a long time without eating, or eating very little, there is a risk of liver damage (not to make you panic - it sounds like she's getting enough food now, but you don't want things to get worse). If she's regurgitating (vomiting within 20 mins or so of eating) or vomiting bile/white foam, it could be stomach acid. If the food is digested, it could be nausea. Classic symptoms are acting hungry, going to the food bowl, then walking away, or lip-licking. In those cases, antacids and anti-nausea meds are available.

Also try to ensure she's getting enough water, to avoid possible dehydration.

It makes sense that the vet wants to start with another x-ray, since it's been over a month. If the white spots are gone, maybe more expensive imaging won't be necessary.

But before you go in and pay for the x-ray, I'd want to know whether, if there are still white spots, that would rule out some other possibility. The first x-ray didn't result in a diagnosis, so what would be the next step? Or, if there are other changes, again, what would the next steps would be? Also, what happens if the white spots are gone, but her symptoms continue?

As for the supplement, I take burdock root myself, and slippery elm is pretty well-proven to help with digestion. I just looked up the other two, and Chinese rhubarb is supposed to have some benefit for the lungs. There isn't much data on sheep sorrel; one study noted some side effects: "There are no published trials evaluating the efficacy of sheep sorrel for any proposed claims. Consumption of large doses may result in diarrhea from the anthraquinones and renal and liver damage from the oxalate content."
https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/integrative-medicine/herbs/sheep-sorrel#msk_professional

But I imagine the amount in the supplement you got is pretty tiny, so I don't see that giving it could do any harm.

How is GeGe doing otherwise? Peeing, pooping, behavior?

I'm happy to try to help, though I really can't direct you much, especially about the breathing!
 

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Hello Spirite,

I'll list here in details what I have observed with GeGe from the last few days or so.

Her patterns now have been as follows:

When I wake up, she will be up sometimes and she has no real ambition of going outside at first. So I will make breakfast and I'll come back to check on her. I don't force her to go out, so when she is ready she will jump down from her bed and will be ready to go outside. She doesn't want to eat right away, so I will offer her some of her favorite food and she will let me know right away that she doesn't want it. I will usually wait a little while and will make a mixture of the antihistamine pill dissolved in a little water, then put in the nutrient/calorie paste and mix it up good in a syringe. I'll then pick her up, usually from outside, then give her that mixture. She will eat after a while some of the Party mix treats. It is usually an hour or so before she will eat! I then will offer her more as the hours go by. I will start out with around 5 or 6 pieces to see if she wants it or not. That way I don't keep wasting it. She does like it fresh out of the bags or containers. LOL..She does drink water, but usually when she does drink, she will consume a good bit. She is still pooping/peeing.

I will bring her back inside when I am ready to go to sleep. She really seems to prefer it outside, rather then inside. But I don't want to leave her outside while I am sleeping. So she will come by me on her special blanket, and I will brush her for a while to make her comfortable. She will start to nurse and then she will try and lay her head down to sleep. She appears to have an ear itch or something in her ears that make her lift her head up and shake. This will wake me up a few times as I feel the movements from this. LOL. So she does get some rest, usually when she goes outside. I have also noticed that she will look around with her head turning to the right, then back straight, then to the left. Kind of like she was a little paranoid or may be anxiety. She still has a wet sounding cough, but it seems to be less frequent then before. Also, she still has a bad rattle in her throat/chest area. I have noticed also that she will get the rattle noises and breathing when she gets exited. For example: When I pick her up to bring her inside to get her meds..lol..Like she knows what's about to happen..hehehe

Sorry to type so much, but I feel it may be of some importance to know this. Perhaps as you said about the X-rays that may or may not show something the next vet visit. I am supposed to be receiving the herb/vitamin formula tomorrow along with the bone broth. I will administer these supplements asap! I will let you know any progress or not within the next few days. Oh, almost forgot, she hasn't been vomiting lately, so not sure what that was about. I was also thinking about giving her some liquid guaifenesin, but not sure how much or if it would be safe for her. I have a Walgreens store not far from me, and was wondering your thoughts on this? They have the liquid guaifenesin called Wal-Tussin, but it does contain more inactive ingredients shown here:

Active Ingredients: Guaifenesin USP (100mg)
Inactive Ingredients: Anhydrous Citric Acid, Caramel, FD&C Red No. 40, Flavors, Glycerin, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Maltol, Menthol, Propylene Glycol, Purified Water, Saccharin Sodium, Sodium Benzoate

Please let me know your advice. Thanks again so very much for your concern and help! GeGe says Hi to you, with hugs and kisses! I have attached a photo of her..lol

Best,

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Hi Mario,

Oh what a cutie!! She reminds me of my Margaux, also a tabby with a reddish tint to her coat, like GeGe (pic below).

I did a little poking around and there are, obviously, a whole lot of possibilities for that rattle and uncomfortable breathing. I'm pretty sure your vet ruled out asthma, and fluid in the lungs would have shown up on x-ray. But I thought these two might be worth asking your vet about:

1. Heartworms. "Signs of heartworm disease in cats can be very subtle or very dramatic. Symptoms may include coughing, asthma-like attacks, periodic vomiting, lack of appetite, or weight loss. Occasionally an affected cat may have difficulty walking, experience fainting or seizures, or suffer from fluid accumulation in the abdomen."
https://www.heartwormsociety.org/heartworms-in-cats

I know you said she got a dewormer, and I'm assuming it was something that was effective against heartworm. Is there a way to tell if it worked? As far as I know, Frontline doesn't prevent heartworm (at least in cats). Revolution is the only flea med that also protects against heartworm (and some other worms).

2. The essential oil. Although the amount couldn't possibly have been enough to be toxic, maybe it irritated her throat or lungs? "The most common symptoms for cats exposed to essential oils, she said, were drooling, vomiting, coughing, and sneezing." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-essential-oils-poisonous-to-cats/

Here's another article: https://www.today.com/pets/essential-oils-danger-cats-warning-signs-look-t121300

Oh, and yes, bone broth is a terrific idea. I'm glad she's at least eating treats and getting the nutritional supplement, but I'm concerned that she's not necessarily getting a complete diet, with amino acids, especially taurine, vitamins, and minerals. Bone broth is terrific but isn't enough, I don't think. Maybe doodlebug will be by to respond; she knows a lot about kitty nutrition.

As for the guaifenesin, I wasn't familiar with it at all so looked it up (Robitussin!). It seems it's the only cough med that's ok for kitties, so good call! Still, I'd get the vet's ok before giving it. There is info on dosing, how to give it, and side effects to watch out for, here: https://www.vetinfo.com/treating-cat-cough-guaifenesin.html

And here is my Margaux, GeGe's "sister":
 

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Awe, she is so cute like my GeGe. It's amazing how much you can actually love a cat! I guess after having her around me everyday for over 11 years, kind of like my child in a way..LOL

The vet did do a heart worm test that was after the blood work and X-rays I believe. I don't think she had any heart worms, but I will call tomorrow and check to be certain, So much was going on, that I probably got a little side tracked. Thanks for bringing that up!

Thanks again for the info you provided, I will take a look at it and see what it's about. I'm not completely certain if GeGe doesn't have asthma, but I would imagine the vet would have pick up on it? But ya never know.

It would be nice if doodlebug could suggest to me what I should give GeGe to eat. All she has been having is those Party mix treats and some of the nutrient supplement. She does appear to be losing a little weight, so I have to do something to get her to eat! Hopefully that bone broth will make her appetite increase.

Thanks again for everything! I'll just have to hope for the best and take it one day at a time!
 

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Oh, P.S. While I am thinking about it, when GeGe did have those tape worms again, the last time the vet said that they were located in the stomach, as to being in the poop area the previous time.

She gave me (2) pills to give her by mouth, and said that these pills would take care of any worms, not just the tape worms. So now I am thinking that this was done before GeGe got sick, hmmmm. I could be jumping the gun, but you just never know!

So many factors involved. I really think it's best to keep cats inside. I was such a lush when she would cry to go outside, I can only blame myself..lol
 
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