Cat Forum banner

1 - 20 of 42 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hey folks

I know that this is a rather hot debatable topic when choosing what to feed your cat and I am mostly making this post to alleviate my own concerns.

At the moment I am making my own homemade food and we haven't had any issues like constipation or diarrhea or vomiting.

I buy my meat frozen from the local pet store, bring it home and partially cook the outside of the meat and then mince/cut it up and then refreeze it.

Food is taken out on the day that it is going to be served and defrosted in the fridge. When I feed it to Loki, I heat it up slightly and he eats it all within 30 mins (he is a such a little piglet) so it's not being left out long.

My worry is of course that feeding him raw he might get sick or a parasite.

So I want to know what other steps I can take to minimize these risks or if I should just switch completely to a commercial food?

My concern with commercial is just that I have no way of knowing what really is going into it or the preparation. That being said I have no way of knowing whether the place I am sourcing my meat from is reputable either.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,974 Posts
You're buying a complete commercial raw food from the pet store or just muscle meat?

Cooking the food, even a little, destroys nutrients, . The cat may not be getting his daily requirement of all nutrients.

If you don't feel comfortable feeding a true raw diet, IMO you need to switch to a good quality grain free canned diet.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
I am buying muscle meat and I am only cooking the surface a very very little amount as recommended by Dr Pierson on Catinfo.org which is the recipe I am following :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
I don't think he is having any nutritional issues, his coat is wonderfully soft and shiny, and the vet said he is a good weight and health and he has a lot of energy.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,974 Posts
Muscle meat alone is not a balanced diet. It needs to include bone and organs for proper nutrition.

Short term isn't the problem, long term health is the issue. Especially for a growing young kitten.

If you aren't including those things, a supplement is required.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
Thanks for your concern but I am including all of those :)

the recipe that I listed above includes supplements and livers and I grind up the bone with the meat so he gets his calcium.

I know the recipe is complete as this is one that I have seen praised and used a lot on a lot of raw food forums.

My only concern was that there I was more I could do to prevent contamination :<
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,199 Posts
Ditto what Krissy said - him eating only muscle meat is like you only eating apples. Sure, its good for you but it is NOT a complete diet.

I'd suggest feeding him eitger commercial raw or canned food or a combination of the two. At least until you do some more research into preparing a raw diet.

The basic mistakes you're making are:

Only muscle meat
A raw diet should consist of approx 80% muscle meat, 10% bone, 5% liver and 5% other secreting organ.

Cooking it
Cats are carnivores. Their digestive system is literally designed to handle raw meat. A healthy cat is at a very low risk of becoming sick due to a raw diet no matter the source (parasites are the main issue with raw diets that arent properly sourced...and a working pill will remedy that nice and quick).

Im going to guess you're feeding only one meat as well, if you are feeding a variety then skip this.
its doubly important that kittens get a well made diet, with raw that means properly balanced, RAW, and as many kinds of animals as possible.

*ETA I also missed the bit about buying it from the pet store, Sorry!! However cooking it is still an issue. It needs to be RAW! If you're really worried you can feed him in a kennel...but realistically cats are made to eat raw meat and by cooking the balanced raw diet youre lowering the quality.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
I thank you guys for your concerns... but I already stated that I am NOT just feeding him muscle meat x.x

The recipe I listed contains a heap of vitamins as well as bone and organs.
I am also feeding him a variety of meats


I really do appreciate where your concerns are coming from but please do read I posted first.

My concern is not with the recipe, my concern is with contamination
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
I only mentioned the muscle meat because of its SOURCE location. I am wondering where others source the meat from and where they think is better.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,974 Posts
I get mine from the grocery store. It's all human grade food. At the beginning of each month I buy all the required meat, liver, kidney, and bone then set up an assembly line to package it. Then it's frozen and thawed in the fridge the night before I need it. I warm it in the toaster oven set to 90 degrees for 1/2 an hour. This brings it to room temp. I freeze a month's worth at a time.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #11
No worries! Now that we have established that I have a correct recipe;

I would be happy to give it to him completely raw as I know it preserves more of the nutrients but my worry is that I can't source the meat fresh enough.

I hear you should avoid store bought meat from the grocery stores because although they are prepared for human consumption they are prepared with the thought that they are going to be cooked.

I source it from the pet store atm because I know that it is frozen and that can kill off some parasites if frozen long enough. My concern with this is that some pet suppliers see the term 'pet food' and think it means they can be lax with the treatment of the meat.

The other option is to get it from a butcher as fresh as possible but again I don't know if that would necessarily mean there would be less parasites/bacteria.

So I was wondering where people source their meat from? I'm in Australia and the only meat I can get really fresh around here is beef haha.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
18,394 Posts
Are you buying a commercial brand of raw meat pet food or just something the pet store is sourcing locally? If the former, I'd be comfortable that they handle it very well because they know it's intended to be fed raw. If it's the latter I'd be more concerned.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
422 Posts
I hear you should avoid store bought meat from the grocery stores because although they are prepared for human consumption they are prepared with the thought that they are going to be cooked.
I know Dr. Pierson advises to avoid buying the meat pre-ground.

I can get completely raw, unground chicken and turkey thighs (both boneless and bone-in), as well as raw chicken gizzards, hearts and livers, from my supermarket.

I'm just getting started with feeding raw, so I am using RadCat commercial raw to transition until I can afford a decent grinder, because I, too, plan to use the Pierson recipe.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #14
What I am buying from the pet store is frozen chicken thighs, necks, roo steaks and livers and turkey thighs.

Then I take them home and grind half and chunk half + add the vitamins.

I could get it all from the supermarket as well but people have raised concerns about the freshness of it/handling because the butcher at the supermarket knows its going to be cooked.

I just got some chicken from the supermarket today that was completely off! I couldn't believe it >.<

I ASSUME that the pet store is just sourcing food locally and yeah the probably know it's going to be fed raw but they generally have ZERO idea about the concerns of parasites and bacteria or the actual work that goes into raw food x.x

Everytime I bring up making home made food for my cat people think there is either something wrong with the cat or something wrong with me >.>
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,495 Posts
Well, they're wrong about the cat. :grin:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
256 Posts
Discussion Starter #17
Jokes don't really translate well across text so I'm going to assume thats what that was :p

Got any input about food sources Marie?
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
18,394 Posts
The smiley face at the end of her sentence is a pretty good indicator that she was joking. A sense of humor is a good asset...
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
26,495 Posts
Aussies need to lighten up.
 
1 - 20 of 42 Posts
Top