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I just noticed today my barn cat has rather pink nipples. The tissue under them is also quite thick if that makes sense. Weight-wise, she does not appear pregnant whatsoever.
I've never been around a cat in heat but from what I have read on the internet, it's relatively easy to tell. I honestly do not recall any signs or "cat-in-season" behavior at all from her. So, unless she is good at hiding it, I don't think she has even had her first heat yet.

So what's up with the large pink nipples?.. they were definitely not like this before. Aren't they supposed to be small and white/flesh-colored?
 

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Ugh.. Why can't cats be like dogs and cycle every 6 ish months! :roll:
I can't keep them in the house due to allergies, but the older house is still on the property from when the new house was built, so she can stay in one of the rooms.
So, is there any chance she is not pregnant with nipples like that? If she is, it's probably around 3 week along then?


And, yes it does match my nail polish almost spot on, and the color is hot hot pink!! :D
 

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Well, I thought they were 7-8 months, but very recently found out they are at the very minimum over 9. They are tiny though, just over 5 pounds as of now.
As for why I have a male and female cat, well my neighbours bought 2 separate litters off of craigslist (like 9 kittens I believe it was) and before I moved they gave me 2 kittens (different litters) and assured me they were both female, as I told them I did not want a male and female. So fast forward to a few months ago, and I realized that the one is a male. Me being a noob thought that the males genitals were on the stomach (like a dogs) so I thought for the longest time he was a female.... :oops::fust
 

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If you haven't already done so I'd suggest taking them in to the vet. A vet can tell you approximate age, gender (for sure), if this one is pregnant, AND you could get them their shots and parasite control.

If your girl is pregnant she shouldn't get shots, but the other one sure can. And if that one is a male then you should see about getting him neutered.
I live in the middle of nowhere now, there are no vets and definitely no animal shelters. I was well acquainted with my vet before moving to where I am now, and he was kind enough to sell me a ton of dewormer, Novamoxin (amoxicillin), Clavamox as well as ear mite and ear infection cleaner than I will probably ever use so I can adminster it myself if need be. I also don't give my pets shots, and I do not get them either. I am anti-vaccines.

If you can't afford to take them both to the vet I'd suggest surrendering them to a local no-kill shelter.it wasn't very fair to these cats that you got them, gave them no vet care up to this point, didn't get them fixed, and then let them wander around outside where they could possibly get sick or pregnant. If you intended for them to be strictly outdoors then it's even more important to get them fixed (as you now know), and to get their basic care.

I know that sounds mean, but if you aren't able to take care of an animal then you should wait to get one until you can afford their basic care.
Whoa, way to jump the gun. Who said anything AT ALL about not being able to afford vet care? I most definitely can but there is no need. Just because they have not been to a vet does not mean that they are not taken care of does it? I certainly do not think so. They have been dewormed, have shelter, freedom, food/water and attention so what's the issue.
And yes, they are strictly outside cats. They are there for a purpose and that is to keep the mouse population down. I have no one around me for miles and miles, so the chance of them wandering away/getting pregnant (by other cats, hence why I wanted 2 of the same gender) or sick is low as there is no contact with other animals.
 

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Oh they can come wandering, but any stray animals will either get caught in the trap or killed by one of my dogs.
I have livestock and do not tolerate unwanted animals on my property especially when they can harm my other animals.

So, back on track here, at what point will it be blatantly obvious she is pregnant? When should I stop allowing her to go outside?
 

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Okay well I guess I just have to wait and see. When should she not be let outside?
And no to the spaying or neutering. I don't spay or neuter any of my dogs either and do not have oops litters, my one female had to be spayed due to pyometra but if that had not have happened, she would still be intact. Animals need their reproductive organs for more than just reproduction. The male and female will just have to be let outside on rotating days and be kept separate at all times.

Thanks for the help people!
 

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What is your back up plan for complications during the delivery ? I'm a volunteer for a rescue and we've had visits from the vet to inject oxytocin when the queen retained a placenta (it has to come out or the cat gets very ill) , we've also been to the vet in the middle of the night for emergency c-sections. Can you get help for her if need be ?
If she runs into complications she will be put down. Keep in mind here these are barn cats, NOT pets. They will get basic care and medecine when sick, but if it is something severe like that they will just get put down. IF she was a pet and I actually had a bond with her I would probably opt for a C-section. Animals get pregnant and give birth all the time and have for thousands of years, most of the time it goes well and others it does not, that's just the way it goes.
 

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I'm not going to quote everyone, so I'll just answer everybody in one post...

my4kitties, I know they are domesticated, I meant that comment as all animals give birth and whether they are wild or not, some will have complications and some will not.

shan841, farewell!

doodlebug, the older house on my property has 2 separate sides, so they can both be in there one on each side, and they can be let out on rotating days, so they won't have any contact whatsoever.
For what will happen with the kittens, I will keep them until 8 weeks and then put ads up for free kittens.

And to shan841's comment of "the population is out of control and thousands of cats and dogs are put to sleep everyday", so? thousands and thousands of cows/pigs/chickens etc etc get put down everyday for food, they have personalities and feeling as well, no different than a cat. It's all a matter of perspective and my cats are not pets and will not get preferential treatment for being a "domestic animal".
 

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Doodlebug, they already live in this house, and no, no one will ever use it. I put them in there every night. And yes, I live in a cold climate. And also a yes to having a door on each side.

to your "And a life on continuous heat cycles and oops pregnancies (they will happen, you will not be able to control it like you think you will) and locked in an empty house every other day is not a good one. "

Well I will give it a try. And locked in a empty house every other day is not a good one..really? So, what you are saying is to ALL the people out there that only have one cat and work 8+ hours a day should not have one as it is alone for a good portion of the time...? Mine don't have to be in there every other day, it can be one in there for a few hours, then the other back in the house etc.

Miss M, we'll see:). And they probably will find homes, many people jump on the chance for a free pet, especially a kitten.

Kty78, my dogs (GSD's) know these cats and the cats are very friendly with the dogs. The dogs are smart and know who is not part of their "pack" and will kill them, it has happened before where I used to live as there was a big stray cat problem.
 

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Again, can someone enlighten me on how my cats are mistreated?
They have food, water, shelter, toys, treats, litterboxes, collars, freedom, flea and tick preventative, medecine when sick, get dewormed, have beds, get brushed and have attention.
Oh wait I forgot, since they are unfixed that automatically puts them in the category of uncared for and me labelled as a bad owner.


Just a side note:
Why don't all of you speuter and rescue fanatics spend your time on animals that are actually in need. Cats and dogs are bloody lucky to get humanely euthanised. They could be like cattle who get hung upside down and have their throats slit or male chicks who get launched into a grinder while alive. Where is the help for all of them? Just because they are used for food does not mean they should get tortured and brutally murdered while dogs and cats get the luxury of a needle. Now to me, those animals are in a much greater need of your time and money and thoughts than any dog or cat because it is almost a guarantee that no matter how mistreated a dog or cat is, it probaby does not come anywhere close to those animals in a factory farm.
 
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