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We got another puppy. A female named Lucy. Me and her had that bond that just clicks. Today at the farm she died. I ran over her with the truck. I couldn't see her. It was so sad to look at it. It's the worst thing that's ever happened. All I do is blame myself even though I know I shouldn't. I keep saying if i had let her in the truck when she wanted in this wouldn't have happened. How do you move on from something like this? is it possible?
 

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I am so sorry ((((((((Raiynee))))))))

Don't blame yourself, it was accident. You didn't mean to hurt Lucy.
I cannot imagine how heart breaking it was for you to have that happen and to have to see her body like that.

I don't really have any words of advice on how to move on. I just wanted to give you a HUGE hug.
 

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I don't think one ever gets over such a thing. One simply moves on.

I accidentially killed a whole litter of puppies when I was in second grade. I never forgave my self, but I treat my five cats right and it is a solace. I saved five cats after I killed five dogs, it was the only thing I could do to make myself better.
 

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Thanks for the support..I appreciate it. I guess its right that no one ever gets over it. It's just so hard. And then you get those people that are like "it's just a puppy". I'm glad to have my cat though, and we still have our other dog. I guess it's just a matter of being sad for a while.
 

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I keep thinking i'm going to wake up from this aweful dream. that i'm going to walk out of my room and say her name and she's gunna come running and bouncing to me. That if i just go to sleep and wake up in the morning i'm gunna see her happy little face looking up at me. It's not fair. I figure God must have really liked her to take her so soon but no matter what i think I still feel sad and can't stop crying.
 

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Did it happen really recently?Do you have pictures of her that you will be able to keep?

I am so sorry that you are hurting and missing Lucy so much. Reading this brings tears to my eyes :cry: i am sure she knew how loved she was even though her time with you may not have been long.

A Pet's Loss

In your heart, you probably realize that in time the sadness you are feeling will fade.
For now, just know that it's all right to hurt...
I hurt with you.
It's all right to cry...
I share your tears.
It is only through crying that you learn what it's really like to laugh...
only after feeling sadness can you really experience joy.
So allow yourself to feel what comes natural...
but know that someday life will be better...
it will be easier to smile.

- Renee Duvall
 

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It happened today. I love the poem. We have pictures. If i had a scanner i would put some on. She had one blue eye and one green. she is beautiful. Thank you guys all so much.
 

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I am so sorry. I know what it is like to blame yourself after something like this happens. It is a natural instinct. Time will pass and the sorrow will ease, even though it doesn't feel that way now. Lucy was your friend and your baby, not "just" a puppy. Don't minimize your sorrow, just feel it and mourn for her. It is the only way to heal.

Rest in Peace sweet Lucy. You are loved and will be missed dearly. You won't be forgotten. You live on in the hearts of those who were blessed to be a part of your life.

((((((((((hugs))))))))))
 

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You are still in my thoughts.

In high school, my cat Nutmeg, who was my best friend, accidentally ate a pill from a prescription that had some how wound up on the floor....after a week in and out of the vet an ER vet, she died in my arms as a result of the poisoning. She was only 6 years old. I was devastated, and full og guilt that I had not been more careful about checking the floors for things she could get into. Her death was entirely preventable, and I was VERY guilt ridden. I made myself, and her a promise that for the rest of my life, I would rescue as many cats and dogs as I could from homelessness/death, and that I would give them all the best life I possibly could, and would be much more careful. The day after she died, we went to the pound and I adopted Prince, an 8 year old former tom cat who was on death row, who became an amazing pet.

Since that time, I have adopted Ashley, Gaylord, Ivan, and Howie, all animals who, had I not adopted them, would probably have been killed on the streets or put to sleep in the shelter, and I am giving them the very best life I possibly can. (Prince, who formed a strong bond with my mother and sisters, and they to him, now lives with them, spoiled rotten and king of the house). I think of the promise I made often, and I will never forget it. I know that I will rescue other animals in the future, and for the rest of my life. I really believe that Nutmeg looks down, and is proud and thankful for the lives I have saved, even though hers was lost.

I hope this helps some. I know everyone grieves differently, and you may be feeling entirely different than I did about future animals, but I thought I would share, and let you know that there IS light on the other side of a tragedy. *HUGS*
 

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That is very sweet Ianthe, and very powerful. I am sure Nutmeg appreciates what you are doing.

I have felt guilt over the deaths of several of my pets. Mostly my Calliope. I had just brought home my first baby from the hospital and was not aware that my (now) ex had not wanted to be bothered by a cat in the house with a new baby. I think he was still of the belief that cats can endanger a baby. Anyway, he put my indoor kitty outside and would not allow her back in. I can't imagine what she must have thought or felt at this 'rejection' and 'abandonment'.

When I called for her to come cuddle the the next morning (part of our routine), Ex informed me that he had put her out. I went looking for her, and found her dead on the road. She had been run over, and it is possible that she was not killed instantly. It appeared she tried to drag her way to the house, but only made it so far as the side of the road near the driveway. It broke my heart that she may have been trying to come to me to help her, and I wasn't there when she needed me. I feel like I let her down in the worst way and have had a hard time forgiving myself...this was 18 years ago.

There are still rare moments when it hurts, but not like it did the first few weeks or months. I try not to think about it too much, and I know that Cali wouldn't have wanted it that way. I usually think about her as she was when she was still sharing my life, and it always brings joy to my heart when I recall her antics and her affection. I also am full of guilt at times because I should have made my feelings clear to my ex, in regards to Cali not being allowed outside. I know she would never have caused my baby harm...she was like a child to me, and I will always hold a very special place in my heart for her. :cry:

Horrible things happen to wonderful people. It is something that cannot be avoided sometimes. We can all "what if" for eternity, but it won't change the fact that nothing can be done to change this situation...however, we can learn from it and as Ianthe has done, do something wonderful in the memory of our lost loves.

Raiynee, I hope the pain subsides and you can remember the positive things about your Lucy...if it isn't the case now, it will be in the future...when the time is right. Sometimes, taking an action like this in the memory of our lost babies is very healing. Don't rush to try to "make up for" what happened. Allow yourself all of the time you need to get through this tragedy...on your own terms.

Thank you, Ianthe for giving your Nutmeg a beautiful legacy.
That is a heart-warming story. I applaud you and I know Nutmeg does too.
 

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thank you both. Both of your stories are very touching and brought me to tears for you both. It's also good to know i'm not alone in the feeling though it's a bad one i would wish on no one. thank you guys so much.
 

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It was a vicodin. I, personally, to this day am still convinced it may not have been entirely the pill that killed her. Right after I saw that she had swallowed it, I called the vet we used at the time to see what we needed to do. He told me to give her Ipecac syrup to make her throw it up. I gave her a little and she didn't throw up, I called to see if we should just bring her to the vet but he told me no, to keep giving her the Ipecac syrup until she threw up. I was like, well, this is a full bottle, isn;t that an awful lot of Ipecac for a 6 pound cat? He told me to give her the whole bottle.

God, I can still remember so clearly forcing it down her throat. :cry:

Anyway, she still wasn't throwing up after a whole bottle of Ipecac, so we finally just drove her to the vet, where he gave her MORE. He also gave her some fluids, etc., usual supportive care, but not much else.....she never did throw up. She did ok for a day or so, then started going downhill...she fought a hard fight but finzlly went into agonal breaths one morning I was there visiting her.

I have heard form other sources that Ipecac is not good for cats. I still wonder what actually did the most damage, the pill or the Ipecac.

That vet has since had several complaints filed against him for various other stupid acts that have caused injury or death to pets.

He is still practicing though, and actualy, is the most expensive vet in the area. :roll: Alot of people think he must be the best because he is so expensive. :roll:
 

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I'm so sorry about your kitty. (((((hugs))))) Please don't blame yourself about the vicodin. I think it is possible your kitty could have been helped if brought in to the vet right away as you wanted to do, so I think you may have been given the wrong advice by the vet.

I will post what little I know about vicodin and how it affects the body. This is mostly about how it effects the human body, as my medical experience is that of a nurse, not a vet.

I don't know about the ipecac, as far as how dangerous that may or may not be for a cat. I have never heard of it being given to an animal, but that is only because I have never been in that particular situation. It is possible that this was not good advice, and it may have been toxic to the kitty. I would like to know what others think about this and if they are familiar with its use in veterinary medicine.

Vicodin is a very strong pain-reliever that has 2 ingredients:

Hydrocodone is a potent narcotic analgesic (pain killer) and the dose of a standard Vicodin is 5mg. There are other formulations, such as Vicodin ES which is similar, but even stronger. In the standard dosage, there is enough narcotic to make an adult woozy, nauseated and very sleepy. The dangerous effect of this medication is respiratory depression (slow breathing, and inadequate oxygen intake). Also decrease in blood pressure and pulse rate.

It is prescribed based on the patient's weight and 5mg is too strong for a child. It is rarely given to anyone uder the age of 12, and if it is, it is usually given in a liquid so that the dose can be titrated (lowered) based on weight. So, 5 mg...even 1mg is lot of this drug for a small animal, but it didn't necessarily kill the kitty. The decrease in blood pressure and respiratory depression are reversible in humans by administering certain other medications (i.e. Narcan), if given in time through an i.v. It is also desirable (in any overdose) to immediately give a special medical charcoal to stop the absorption of any drug remaining in the stomach.

Acetaminophen is the other ingredient. This is what you find in tylenol. It is very toxic to most animals, but safe for humans in the proper dosage but can be dangerous if used too often, in larger dosages than recommended or with alcohol. It is hard on the liver, and the standard vicodin tablet has 500mg. I don't know how badly this dosage would harm the liver of a pet, or if it is reversible.

The best choice, IMO would have been for the vet to give your kitty charcoal and possible an opiate/narcotic reversing medication (humans who overdose are given something along the lines of Narcan or Naloxone). I am not sure how to reverse the toxic effects of acetaminophen, except with the charcoal to block any remaining in the digestive tract and supportive treatment with i.v. fluids.

Please let me reiterate that I am not a vet, nor a vet tech, and I have no qualifications to make any judgement. These are just my personal opinions and should be verified by someone who is qualified before taken seriously.

I am so sorry you lost your kitty, and even more sorry that (imo) it wasn't handled differently by the vet. You did all you were told to do and handled the situation exactly as an owner should have: followed the advice of your vet. You are a good kitty mommy ((((((HUGS))))))
 

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The best choice, IMO would have been for the vet to give your kitty charcoal and possible an opiate/narcotic reversing medication (humans who overdose are given something along the lines of Narcan or Naloxone). I am not sure how to reverse the toxic effects of acetaminophen, except with the charcoal to block any remaining in the digestive tract and supportive treatment with i.v. fluids
Yes, I agree. I have since spent a few years working as a vet tech, and I believe this is the way it would properly have been handled, from what I have seen on the job. :roll:

But, everything happens for a reason, and out of that loss came the great joy I have in my current pets, who would almost certainly have been euthanized had it not been for this tragedy.
 

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Ianthe said:
But, everything happens for a reason, and out of that loss came the great joy I have in my current pets, who would almost certainly have been euthanized had it not been for this tragedy.
I have to agree with that. It feels better now 2 days later. I love the information you looked up brynn, It's very informative.
 
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