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I have two cats'.

Cat #1:
Breed: Norwegian Forest
Age: Elderly
Sex: F
Dependence: Extreme
Build: Like a pot-bellied pig

Cat #2
Breed: Unknown
Age: Middle-Aged
Sex: F
Dependence: Independent
Build: Like an ox

To further explain those details. Cat #1 will howl like a wolf. While Cat #2 has a very soft tone. Cat #1 can scare Cat #2 have to death. Cat #1 refuses to open a door by herself. While Cat #2 has no problem opening a door.

I know the breed could be a reason. But Cat #1 seems very manipulative.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 

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Are you asking why Cat #1 won't open the door? If so, it may because she doesn't know how to or she doesn't want to.
 

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Are you asking why Cat #1 won't open the door? If so, it may because she doesn't know how to or she doesn't want to.
I have considered the possibility of her not wanting to. Because, I have to have the door seemingly fully open. Before she will walk into the room. She does have arthritis in her back legs. So, That wouldn't affect(or so it would seem) her ability to push or pull the door open.
 

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Hmm, it might would if she has to stand on her hind legs to push it open. She may not know that she can just push it open.
 

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Hmm, it might would if she has to stand on her hind legs to push it open. She may not know that she can just push it open.
From an arthritic perspective, maybe. But, When I have the door almost fully open. She still howls like a dog, and won't go through door, until I tell her.
 

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I am 54 n' presently living w/ my 80yr.-old mother. She got two cats that were rescues' from a hoarder.

One cat is Norwegian Forest, the other looks like a Tabby.

The Tabby is strong and muscular. While the Norwegian Forest looks like a pot-bellied pig.

The Tabby is very independent. While the Norwegian Forest cat is very dependent. The Norwegian Forest (seemingly) refuses to try opening a door herself. Someone has to open a door for her. I feel like her servant If I don't open the door. Se meows' at the top of her lungs...all the time.

What can I do to stop this behavior?

TIA

I am asking this again. Because it is getting worse.
 

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One of my girls does this only when I get up in the morning. She obviously came and went through the slightly cracked open bedroom door during the night, but wants me to open the door for her when I'm around. At least she doesn't meow at the top of her lungs, that would be upsetting to me.
 
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It sounds to me as if she simply is either unable to open the door herself, thinks she cannot, or doesn't want to for some reason. What is so bad about opening it for her? Can you just leave it open? Can you install a little flap in the door so she can go through without your having to open it?

I suggest that you try to find a work-around that you and the cat can both live with.

Also, if she is meowing at the top of her lungs all the time she may have a medical issue and the first thing to do is have her thoroughly checked out at the vet to see what is wrong.

She is not doing this to annoy you.
 

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Your cat is not being abusive. Please stop blaming her for this because it is not her fault. It sounds to me as if she simply is either unable to open the door herself, thinks she cannot, or doesn't want to for some reason. What is so bad about opening it for her? Can you just leave it open? Can you install a little flap in the door so she can go through without your having to open it?
Not of her own free will. Her behavior was learned somehow. I working on showing her. When the door is not completely closed. She can push it open from the outside. Getting her to pull it open from the inside, is harder to show her.
I suggest that, rather than getting angry or frustrated with a little cat who is elderly and may even be not fully herself any longer, you try to find a work-around that you and the cat can both live with.
I can't get the Cat Whisperer from cable tv.
Also, if she is meowing at the top of her lungs all the time she may have a medical issue and the first thing to do is have her thoroughly checked out at the vet to see what is wrong.
I thought that, at first. But, I noticed a difference in the sounds. Because, While she is elderly and has a kidney infection. She is capable of a lower pitch. I did check her litter last night. It was not good. While she does #1 alot, because of the infection. My mother hadn't cleaned in more than a day.
She is not doing this to annoy you.
I know that. But she did learn the demanding behavior somewhere, probably from the hoarder she was rescued from.
 

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Just keep showing her what to do. Or, leave the door partly open so that she can get through. I don't understand why this is a large problem.

When I said rather than get angry find a work-around, I meant that you can find some way for her to go through the door when she needs to, and for it not to have to be you that opens it every time.

Is she being treated for the kidney infection? Are you aware that kidney infections are VERY painful? This may be why she is meowing. If you have her under the treatment of a vet, ask the vet about the constant meowing and see what they say. She may need something different or additionally to her medication.

Be kind to this cat. She is sick, and very uncomfortable, probably in pain at least some of the time, and in a fragile state. None of which is her doing, and she doesn't understand what is happening to her. Treat her with compassion, as if she were your beloved grandmother who was having a problem getting the door open, and needed some help. If you think about it, you can come up with a way to work with this.

And please consult the vet that is treating her as well.
 

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Hi Christophe.

First, get The Yowler checked out with a Vet.

Meanwhile, get a handful of her favorite treats. Sit on one side of the door with it slightly open while cat is on the other side. Offer treat and call her name. When she pushes through the door, give her treat and praise. Then sit on other side of door with her on the opposite side. Offer treat and call her name. Give her treat and praise when she comes through the door. Repeat until skill is attained and reinforce as needed.

When she's able to go in and out of the room without howling, stop treats but continue to sit on either side of the door and call her into the room. Give lots of praise. After several successful attempts, stop calling her and see how she does on her own.
 

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The vet is another problem. My mother has taken the cat to several different vets. Not liking each one. For one reason, or another. The treats are an idea.
 

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Just keep showing her what to do. Or, leave the door partly open so that she can get through. I don't understand why this is a large problem.

When I said rather than get angry find a work-around, I meant that you can find some way for her to go through the door when she needs to, and for it not to have to be you that opens it every time.

Is she being treated for the kidney infection? Are you aware that kidney infections are VERY painful? This may be why she is meowing. If you have her under the treatment of a vet, ask the vet about the constant meowing and see what they say. She may need something different or additionally to her medication.

Be kind to this cat. She is sick, and very uncomfortable, probably in pain at least some of the time, and in a fragile state. None of which is her doing, and she doesn't understand what is happening to her. Treat her with compassion, as if she were your beloved grandmother who was having a problem getting the door open, and needed some help. If you think about it, you can come up with a way to work with this.

And please consult the vet that is treating her as well.
She has been treated for several years. I have seen her jump up on a short couch sometimes. Even though she has pain in her back legs. Over the last couple of months. My mother n' I had give the cat IV Saline, because a vet said she was dehydrated. That was a battle, not just with the cat. But also my mother. The latest vet said to stop the IV.

I have also wondered if the loud meowing is related to the breed(Norwegian Forest). Because of the breed being outside. But everything I find. Says they are a quiet breed.
 

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You can watch free episodes of the cat whisperer on your computer. Google "Jackson Galaxy on Youtube", and you could even add a specific problem you want to address.
 

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She has been treated for several years. I have seen her jump up on a short couch sometimes. Even though she has pain in her back legs. Over the last couple of months. My mother n' I had give the cat IV Saline, because a vet said she was dehydrated. That was a battle, not just with the cat. But also my mother. The latest vet said to stop the IV.

I have also wondered if the loud meowing is related to the breed(Norwegian Forest). Because of the breed being outside. But everything I find. Says they are a quiet breed.
If this cat has a kidney problem it will kill the cat unless you get the right treatment.
An IV of saline is not the way to treat it. You would need to do sub-cutaneous lactated ringers solution, and you can learn how through a vet or even online.

(Maybe that is what you actually meant, rather than IV, which is into a vein as opposed to under the skin).
If the cat is dehydrated, that will also kill her.
You also have to feed the right diet.

This cat really needs to be under the care of a vet on a regular basis, whether or not your mother likes that particular vet. If she dislikes all the vets you have been to, it makes me wonder if maybe she just doesn't like what they are telling her. In this case, in my opinion, the needs of the cat should be put ahead of personal likes.

I have a fair bit of experience with kidney issues in cats.
This condition is very uncomfortable and painful and leads slowly to collapse and death if not treated well.
but a cat can have a good quality of life even with chronic kidney disease if it is treated with care and attention.
To me it sounds as if this cat is not currently getting the treatment she needs because I suspect that the howling is due to pain. In this kind of situation, the only good choices are either to treat the cat daily in whatever way is needed, or (and I hate to say it) let the cat go. To let her continue to be in pain and feel ill, and it will not improve but only get worse, is unfair to everyone.

If giving fluids was too much stress for the cat and the person doing it, then you could have it done at a vet.
 

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You can watch free episodes of the cat whisperer on your computer. Google "Jackson Galaxy on Youtube", and you could even add a specific problem you want to address.
Thanks, I found Jackson Galaxy. Where can I pose my question about my cat's behavior? I see 'cat' videos listed on his YouTube Channel. That he has posted over the years. But none focus the specific details about my cat. So, Where can I ask him a question?
 
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