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Is this Salmon Oil an Acceptable Brand?

4.6K views 10 replies 3 participants last post by  hoofmaiden  
#1 ·
***I wasn't sure if this forum was ok to post this in or if it belonged in the Raw Diet forum.

After reading through the forums here, I've realized that during my cats' transition from wet/canned food to raw, I should presumably be supplementing with Salmon Oil.

I went to our local feed store and they had 2 brands--Grizzly Salmon Oil ($7.50 for 4oz) and Yummy Chummies Salmon Oil ($7.79 for 8oz).

I purchased the Yummy Chummies Wild Alaska Salmon Oil seeing as it was a better price. It is NOT exclusive for cats though; in fact it says for "dogs" on the label---is this okay?

Here is a link to it http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/product.a ... id=0029093

Here is a link to the product LABEL info http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/assets/la ... 029093.htm

The label on my bottle reads the following:

GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein 0% min
Crude Fat 99% min
Crude Fiber 5% max
Moisture 1% max
Omega 3 Fatty Acids* 18% min
Omega 6 Fatty Acids* 4% min
DHA (Docosahexaenoic Acid) 7% min
EHA (Eicosapentaenoic Acid) 5% min

Would someone please be kind enough to advise if this particular brand is acceptable or not and how frequently should I be giving it to them? I have 9 cats that are currently on canned/wet and we are slowly progressing toward a raw diet. THANK YOU! :D
 
#2 ·
Salmon oil is added to provide the omega 3 fatty acids in a raw diet. Some commercial canned diets do contain the 3's. Even though it says its for dogs, it can be used for cats also. IMO the oil looks fine but I couldn't find anything about if the oil was screened or not. May want to find out about that.

The amount to give might be tough to advise. I don't think that we have one set universal ratio. The ratio is omega6:eek:mega3. Conventional vets say 10:1-5:1. I have said at least 6.5:1 based on one study of mice. Someone stated holistic vets are 5:1-3:1. Omega 6 is found in animal fat. Depending on the amount of fat you feed will determine the amount of oil. Good chance if you start off with at least three drops of oil, you should be good.
 
#3 ·
chris10 said:
Salmon oil is added to provide the omega 3 fatty acids in a raw diet. Some commercial canned diets do contain the 3's. Even though it says its for dogs, it can be used for cats also. IMO the oil looks fine but I couldn't find anything about if the oil was screened or not. May want to find out about that.

The amount to give might be tough to advise. I don't think that we have one set universal ratio. The ratio is omega6:eek:mega3. Conventional vets say 10:1-5:1. I have said at least 6.5:1 based on one study of mice. Someone stated holistic vets are 5:1-3:1. Omega 6 is found in animal fat. Depending on the amount of fat you feed will determine the amount of oil. Good chance if you start off with at least three drops of oil, you should be good.
Thanks so much. Do you mean check to see if it is screened for contaminants/diseases?
 
#4 ·
tdmom said:
Do you mean check to see if it is screened for contaminants/diseases?
Yes. Most of the oils I find have something to the effect of this on the package "It is screened for the absence of potentially harmful levels of contaminants (i.e. mercury, heavy metals, PCB's, dioxins, and other contaminants)" Good chance the product you listed will be screened. But it doesn't hurt to contact the company. Salmon are higher the in food chain and most of the time will have higher contaminants than low food chain fish like sardines/herring. You can add more oil than I suggested. Per the manufacturers directions you probably don't want to do more than a half of a pump, or 1/2 tablespoon.

Good luck
 
#5 ·
I generally avoid salmon oil intended for pets. You're better off getting one that is intended for human beings, as there are more controls and it's likely to be better quality. Then make sure it's salmon body oil or menhaden fish body oil, and make sure it doesn't have soy and other fillers added. Plan to spend at least $20-30 for a bottle.
 
#6 ·
chris10 said:
tdmom said:
Do you mean check to see if it is screened for contaminants/diseases?
Yes. Most of the oils I find have something to the effect of this on the package "It is screened for the absence of potentially harmful levels of contaminants (i.e. mercury, heavy metals, PCB's, dioxins, and other contaminants)" Good chance the product you listed will be screened. But it doesn't hurt to contact the company. Salmon are higher the in food chain and most of the time will have higher contaminants than low food chain fish like sardines/herring. You can add more oil than I suggested. Per the manufacturers directions you probably don't want to do more than a half of a pump, or 1/2 tablespoon.

Good luck
You're right--it never hurts to ask, so I did. I've emailed both Grizzly Pet Products and Yummy Chummies.

I've received one response so far, from Grizzly Pet Products, and I'm posting it below in case someone else is interested:

"The product is exactly the same oil for both cats and dogs. The only difference is the label on the bottle.

The oil is tested regularly for toxins and there are no detectable toxins in our oil.

Louise Donaldson
Office Manager
8734 122nd Ave NE
Kirkland, WA 98033

telephone 425-827-0236
fax 425-827-0381
louise@grizzlypetproducts.com"
 
#7 ·
hoofmaiden said:
I generally avoid salmon oil intended for pets. You're better off getting one that is intended for human beings, as there are more controls and it's likely to be better quality. Then make sure it's salmon body oil or menhaden fish body oil, and make sure it doesn't have soy and other fillers added. Plan to spend at least $20-30 for a bottle.
Hmmm, interesting! Thanks for sharing. About how many ounces do you get for $20-30? Is that for UNscented or regular/scented?
 
#8 ·
tdmom said:
Hmmm, interesting! Thanks for sharing. About how many ounces do you get for $20-30? Is that for UNscented or regular/scented?
It usually comes in capsules that you have to pierce and squeeze the oil from onto the food. So not sure about ounces. The one I usually get is unscented b/c I have one cat and one dog who hate the scented kind -- I get it from Hare Today:

http://www.hare-today.com/product_info. ... cts_id=226

17 oz for $24. A little goes a long way.

Mostly what you'll find in the natural food store, though, is gel caps that you pierce. Go to Whole Foods or someplace like that, NOT the regular grocery store or drug store.
 
#9 ·
Just got my reply from Yummy Chummies:

"Thank you for writing to us. It is good for cats to I have several customers who use it on cat food too. Farm raised fish is illegal in the state of Alaska we get our fish right here in Valdez AK and Kodiak AK .We process the fish we catch for the oil and the fish. Yes we have our fish tested for any toxins and diseases. I hope this helps and thank you so much for being a loyal customer.

Jenn"
 
#10 ·
hoofmaiden said:
tdmom said:
Hmmm, interesting! Thanks for sharing. About how many ounces do you get for $20-30? Is that for UNscented or regular/scented?
It usually comes in capsules that you have to Richard and squeeze the oil from onto the food. So not sure about ounces. The one I usually get is unscented b/c I have one cat and one dog who hate the scented kind -- I get it from Hare Today:

http://www.hare-today.com/product_info. ... cts_id=226

17 oz for $24. A little goes a long way.

Mostly what you'll find in the natural food store, though, is gel caps that you pierce. Go to Whole Foods or someplace like that, NOT the regular grocery store or drug store.

I'm confused...what does "Richard and squeeze the oil from" mean? :oops:

Also, I clicked on the link you posted and that shows liquid in a pump--is this what you use or you use capsules?

Thanks!
 
#11 ·
tdmom said:
I'm confused...what does "Richard and squeeze the oil from" mean? :oops:
LOL! I looked at that and thought, "Am I losing my MIND?!?!?!" But when I went into my post, it said the "P" word that means "pierce" & rhymes with slick. Apparently, it's a "bad" word so "Richard" is substituted automatically! LOL! I have edited my original post to use the word "pierce."
Also, I clicked on the link you posted and that shows liquid in a pump--is this what you use or you use capsules?
I use the pump bottle. If you use the pump you have to find one like this brand in a container that protects the oil (read the description on the Hare Today site for more into). A plain old bottle won't work. I like the pump b/c piercing the capsules is a bit of a PITA but this is the only brand in a pump bottle (the good kind) that I've found. So if you get it in the local natural food store you probably WILL be piercing capsules.

Still giggling about the p word and Richard!!!