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Hi Everyone,

I had been feeding Callie (14 years old) Feline's Pride up until about 2 weeks ago when she had a bout of diarrhea and vomiting. Not sure if the food itself had anything to do with why she got sick, but I don't know how to tell and am nervous about feeding it to her again. I am debating sort of making my own food for her because I can't afford to keep giving her the Rad Cat and don't like giving her the Primal nuggets because I think they are so dry and have the vegetables she doesn't need. So... I was wondering if it is possible to get the Primal ground meat (without veggies or supplements) and add supplements. I can't go Frankenpray or buy meat from the store and grind or chop it myself. Do I try the Feline's Pride again? I still have about 6 pounds of Cornish Hen in the freezer. Or should I not risk it and do it myself?

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Sarah
 

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"I can't go Frankenpray or buy meat from the store and grind or chop it myself."

You have set an impossible bar, in my opinion (or I should say as far as I know). If you want to go raw, you HAVE to go to a store and buy and grind the meat yourself.
This is one of the best recipes I know of from a very well respected cat guru.

Making Cat Food by Lisa A. Pierson, DVM :: homemade cat food, cat food recipes
 

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I would definitely do it yourself. As you said, no way of knowing what caused Callie's illness but with frankenprey you know there is nothing in there except what you put in. And you don't have to do all the supplement combining like in the recipe Marcia linked. It couldn't be simpler:

1. buy some boneless chicken or pork (to start), cut up chunks, feed them to your cat.
2. buy some liver and some kidney, feed about 1.5 oz. a week of each to your cat.
3. buy raw chicken necks, give your cat one to chew on (break up with a hammer first if your cat isn't inclined to chew it whole)

There are a couple of things you could add to this, but nothing you absolutely have to have. And it's much cheaper than high quality cat food for sure. As time goes on you'll want more variety of proteins, etc, but that is for later. The three steps I've outlined above will get you going with no fuss.
 

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I worry if the food is not ground that she will not be able to chew it very well- she is 14 and has had some teeth removed. She can chew the ground food, but I worry with chunks and bones. Again, I am not able to grind the food myself, so that's not an option. I understand that is the best way to do it (grinding yourself or Frankenpray), but that isn't doable for me and many others and that's why there is high quality commercial raw available. I don't see her being into the Frankenpray since she's so picky. She would probably stare at me wondering why I didn't cut up her food for her.

I could try buying meat myself and cutting it up in a small mince, but where would I get meat that is okay for her? We don't have an Asian grocer in town- only regular supermarkets and a Whole Foods.
 

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We were at the Farm Market the other day and I noticed that a lot of the Butchers were offering ground dog food. I am pretty sure it was just the ground meat, nothing but meat....and a LOT cheaper than he was buying in the pet stores. In which case, cat owners could technically buy that meat and just make sure to add the organs and other things cats need. (My girls already like to eat their organ meat as treats). Might be something to look into....

Heather...with Liver and Kidney...would they need heart too for a good source of taurine?
 

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No, actually they don't need heart. It counts as one of the muscle meats, and it is certainly a good one for the added taurine but not a necessity. I also sprinkle taurine powder on my cat's meat chunks just to be sure he is getting enough - he does eat beef heart btw - because you cannot overdose on taurine as they eliminate any excess and it has no taste so they don't object.

Your cat will be able to chew the chunks of meat, I would bet. She might need them chunked up small to begin with but many cats do take to it readily. That way you don't have to worry about grinding. And yes, I buy my cat's meats from the regular supermarket - just cheaper cuts. My cat, who is a raw food LOVER from day one when I started him on frankenprey, doesn't even recognize the commercial raw as 'raw' - he won't eat it.
 

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After buying the meat, would I chunk it up and then freeze it or freeze first and then cut it up? Would I add any supplements? She already gets Lysine sprinkled over her nighttime meal for her pretty much dormant herpes in her eyes.
 

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My response says nothing about freezing before, therefore I don't. As far as freezing after, to me it's just common sense. Unless you're going to use all you cut up in a day or two, you'd naturally have to freeze it.
 

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Most suggest freezing for 72 hours before thawing and feeding.
 

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One of the reasons I usually try to re-word a raw food issue and get it in the Health and Nutrition forum is because so few people come to the raw section...:wiggle
Please post in the appropriate forum only.
 

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Mocha's Mommy, I have definitely read that also. But if you do some reading on how remarkably efficient a cat's GI tract is in killing off bacteria, and if you're buying human grade meat (as I do), I think freezing first is overkill but that's just my opinion based on my research. YMMV :smile:
 

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Heather...I have read about their efficient tracts too. We have given our girls some fresh raw chicken and organ meat as we cut it up. I don't believe they had any problems with their raw....our vet does (even though he pays lip service to supporting our decision to raw feed...but that is another story). People new to raw feeding usually like to err on the side of caution...DH and I did. Then our kittens decided to teach us the fresh stuff wasn't harmful...of course, by jumping on the counter and stealing pieces!

RatAndMop...posting a raw feeding question in the Health forum may get you more answers, but most will be empathy. Posting in Raw Feeding is where you will get fewer answers but more from the raw feeders!
 

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Feeding suggestions...

So, after Callie's previous food (Feline's Pride) not seeming to agree with her and being out of Rad Cat (which she loves), I decided to chop up a chunk of raw chicken breast that I had in the freezer to see if she'd eat it. I thawed it out and cut it up into small bites. She wouldn't touch it. I sprinkled on some parmesan cheese and she still wouldn't go near it. I went out this morning and bought her some more Rad Cat as well as a 2 pound portion of Blue Ridge Beef turkey grind. I just can't afford to keep giving her the Rad Cat since it's so expensive- $11 a pound! I am happy to try giving her homemade raw again, but any suggestions on getting her to try it? Is there another meat I should try? The Blue Ridge Beef grind isn't complete- it's just turkey muscle meat and some bone, so I know I would have to supplement somehow.

Any suggestions?
 

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start mixing tiny bits of the raw chicken in with the rad cat. Then begin increasing the real raw (muscle meat, bones, secreting/non secreting organs and reducing the rad cat.
 
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