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Delta and Lyric are finally on raw, but they don't seem very excited when meal time comes around. They hate pork, got bored of chicken hearts, not too bad with cornish hen, all they are really interested in eating is chicken breast. I am tempted to switch back to canned, and give them a bone mean weekly to clean their teeth, but it costs me over $70.00+ a month to feed two kittens high quality wet.

I'm not sure what else I should do...Delta turns her head up to wet food now, but really only picks at her raw food. Lyric is 1/2 and 1/2, he likes his wet food, seems to like raw but still only picks.


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ETA: They have a diet combo right now of:

Chicken thigh meat
Chicken breast meat
Chicken breast w/ rib
Chicken heart
Pork Shoulder (which they hate)
Chicken neck
Cornish hen

Was waiting to add liver and other organs for another week or so
 

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Hi, CassiandRJ!

If you don't mind, how much (by weight) are you feeding per meal and how many meals do you offer?

Also, that's a lot of chicken - cats like variety and go "off" their food rather quickly (and frustratingly) when they don't get enough of it (with "enough" being different for every cat, of course *rolls eyes at silly kitties*).

Could you add turkey (I buy turkey drumsticks and cut the meat off), beef (like the beef stew pieces), beef heart, rabbit, or anything else? With enough variety, you could even add the chicken hearts back in, since it'll be "newish", they may be interested in it again.
 

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I don't weigh their food, as kittens, I give them as much as they'll eat. I offer 3-4 meals a day.

It's a lot of chicken, but thats all I can get them to eat. :( I'm gonna make a trip to the local butcher to see what they have, but for now I am offering what's available at my local grocery stores. I haven't been able to find beef heart, unfortunately.

I'll pick up some turkey drumsticks, I remember seeing those!
 

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I don't weigh their food, as kittens, I give them as much as they'll eat. I offer 3-4 meals a day.

It's a lot of chicken, but thats all I can get them to eat. :( I'm gonna make a trip to the local butcher to see what they have, but for now I am offering what's available at my local grocery stores. I haven't been able to find beef heart, unfortunately.

I'll pick up some turkey drumsticks, I remember seeing those!
Hmmm, just throwing this out there - without knowing how much is on their plates at any given meal, there is a slight possibility you're offering more than they need. Do you think you're feeding more than two ounces per meal, per kitten?

Beef heart (or any product, actually) - ask the butcher where you shop if he can special order it for you. If he's not sure, offer to order in bulk, that may be all the incentive he needs.

Let us know how the turkey test goes! :)
 

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You're right, I actually didn't think of that!

I picked up some beef and turkey drumsticks and cut it in decent pieces, I tried about an ounce of the beef and they LOVED it! I'm gonna try the turkey tonight. I am going to try not to feed the same thing every 3 days. I'm gonna make a schedule and introduce the liver/organs so that everything will be balanced and planned out. :)

Thanks so much for your help.

The things we do for our babies! :)
 

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You're right, I actually didn't think of that!

I picked up some beef and turkey drumsticks and cut it in decent pieces, I tried about an ounce of the beef and they LOVED it! I'm gonna try the turkey tonight. I am going to try not to feed the same thing every 3 days. I'm gonna make a schedule and introduce the liver/organs so that everything will be balanced and planned out. :)

Thanks so much for your help.

The things we do for our babies! :)
LOL! Indeed!

Glad it looks like a little variety's all they needed. :p

My Rachel loves beef so much, I had to cut her pieces smaller when she first started, 'cause she'd swallow them without cutting them down first, then hork 'em back up ten minutes later. *eye roll*

I don't know how you plan to feed the organ meats, but may I suggest you cut them into four separate meals: two each week for liver and two each week for the other organ. Obviously, the amount of liver and other organ (I use kidney) isn't large enough for a single meal - you'll have to mix it with something else to make up the full two ounces (or however much you're feeding per meal).

Many cats can't handle a lot of organ in a single meal, or any organ meats without something else to accompany it. I feed liver with chicken breast and kidney with chicken gizzards, and always let them eat the organs first.

Schedules work WONDERS. I have mine tapped to my refrigerator door and every morning, I take a look at it and pull out whatever's on the menu for the next day. Simplicity itself. (Wish I was even half that organized with my own meals!)
 

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Turkey was a big hit and after they were finished (gave a small-ish amount) they were looking at me like "Umm, more?". :mrgreen: As a side note: I can't believe how much meat that is really on those drumsticks! That's awesome. :)

I feel a bit dumb for asking, but I picked up some gizzards at the store, also. I'm not sure exactly what they are so what category do they go in? Oof...

Thank you so much for your help, Auntie Crazy, don't know why I didn't think to do this sooner.
 

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Gizzards, like hearts, are considered meats.

I'm not sure to what you're referring when you say, "Don't know why I didn't think to do this sooner?" but there's not a one of us that's capable of thinking of everything, or even of just what we need every time we need it.

That's what friends - online and off - are for! :kittyturn
 

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Okay, then I guess I'll try the gizzards too, tonight. :) Thanks!

I noticed you're from MA! I grew up in North Dighton, now residing in FL, I miss it so much up north.
 

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I would so totally, gratefully, immediately trade locations with you, CassiandRJ. I moved here from MS to be closer to family, but it turns out I'm died in the blue, can't beat it out of me, 100% true southern girl. My heart's still puttin' around the quiet still waters and the wide open fields of my old stompin' grounds. *sniff*

Someday, I'll relocate to the south for good, preferably in Dallas, TX.
 

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I believe gizzard is stomach, but it doesn't look like any stomach I have ever seen so now that I say it, I'm not sure.
I don't feed raw but have sometimes tried to offer my cats some raw chicken liver, or a neck and they sniff it and walk away.
 

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I just wanted to add my experiences with raw :)

My 2 really didn't care about variety for about the first 4 months I fed them raw... they could eat a week of the same thing and not think twice.

Now, it is MUCH more difficult. I can't do 2 chicken meals in a row, or else they won't finish. Their favorites are beef and pork... so much for the logic of feeding them "something they could kill!" But they're funny, because they'd eat chicken NECKS as many days as I would give them, or gizzards, but straight up chicken muscle meat I've got to vary.

They also LOVE organ, thankfully. They do prefer the chicken liver over the beef liver, however. Also, see if you can find chicken hearts... they are so tiny they are almost "bite sized" and my cats love them too!

Raw is just so much fun. My male cat just went into the vet for his annual checkup and complimented him on how beautiful his teeth are. He's only 4, but I'll still take the compliment :)

-BP
 

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I believe gizzard is stomach, but it doesn't look like any stomach I have ever seen so now that I say it, I'm not sure.
*lol* Yup, it's a stomach... a really, really, really muscular stomach meant for physically grinding up food after it's swallowed (mammals don't have one; they're only found in birds, reptiles, earthworms and some fish). Depending on species, they tend to feel hard or gritty... yummy! ;-)

Basically, the gizzard is similar to the heart in that it's a very muscular organ, so in a raw diet counts as "muscle meat".
 
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