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Simon is proving to be different than my other cats, I am wondering if this is siamese related, or just because I have known all my cats since kittenhood, and simon is already two years old.

The first thing he does is really annoy us at night, he wants us to be awake all night long, and he gets right in our face at night to try and wake us up. He is very lovey and wants to be petted, but only at night when we are sleeping.

He also has a very loud meow, when he wants something he is very loud about it.

Now the really weird thing, He was after a fly earlier today. It was flying around the house. He kept chasing it around and chattering at it. He reminded me of a bird chatting. Like trrroww trrrowwww, and he was chattering his teeth together, like clicking his teeth. I have never heard a cat sound like that before. Is that Siamese typical, or just his particular way of meowing?

As he grows more comfortable here I am noticing his personality more and more. If any one can give me ideas of Siamese typical behaviors I couyld be watching for I would appreciate it.

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Don't know about the up in your face at night, but maybe you should try to have a play session with him before bed time so he grows tired (remember cats sleeps a lot during the day and are night animals).

Siamese cats talk a lot and can be very loud! I'm not surpised at all if you hear many funny sounds from your cat, I know one cat that sounds as he's speaking real words. So it sounds like your cat is very much a Siamese. :D
 

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The first thing he does is really annoy us at night, he wants us to be awake all night long, and he gets right in our face at night to try and wake us up. He is very lovey and wants to be petted, but only at night when we are sleeping.
Sabby did this all the time when he was younger. I don't think its a trait specific to Siamese, though. Play therapy might help here.

He also has a very loud meow, when he wants something he is very loud about it.
Now that is Siamese! I hope you learn to love it, cuz there ain't no changing it! :wink:

Now the really weird thing, He was after a fly earlier today. It was flying around the house. He kept chasing it around and chattering at it. He reminded me of a bird chatting. Like trrroww trrrowwww, and he was chattering his teeth together, like clicking his teeth. I have never heard a cat sound like that before. Is that Siamese typical, or just his particular way of meowing?
Awww...Sabby does this too. I think it's adorable! I've seen my friends non-siamese cats do this as well.

Siamese tend to be exceptionally intelligent (this is not a trait that Sabby inherited from his siamese mother...I love him, but he's kinda dense). Expect him to learn things you don't normally expect a cat to learn, such as open doors. You might even consider trying to teach him tricks like rolling over or jumping through a hoop! They're also more than a little demanding of your time and attention (could explain #1, when I think about it).
 

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Maleke (Siamese) also does the chattering thing, as does my mom's Siamese cat Simbah.

Maleke has a VERY loud voice when he wants to, that is just a Siamese trait! He loves to hold conversations with me around dinner time, trying to convince me it's time to be fed. It's SO funny! Also when we are outside, he wants to be out too but since he's an indoor cat he only comes out on a harness. So, he will sit in the window sill and meow SO loud. I'm worried the neighbours think we are hurting him!

Your cat sounds normal to me!
 

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Simon does that to! He wants to go outside so badly. I will not allow it! He is so pretty, someone would steal him in a minute! Also it is much to dangerous.

Simon is very demanding of my attention, he follows me around the house meowing at me, he wants me to be petting him all the time. I find it very sweet of him. He is very loud when he wants my attention as well. However it is not any louder than Lilly or Jessy when they want something...it is just a different sounding meow.

Simon is very loveing also, he loves to be cuddled and petted all the time. The other cats are starting to like him more now, and he tries to cuddle with them alot as well.

He is thinner than my other cats though... is this typical of siamese? He is quite long and thin. His hair is slightly longer, I would say medium hair.

I am going to get some film for my camera and hopefully I will have some photos as early as next week. I just cant waight to show him off!
 

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I agree, you have a normal lovebug kitty. :p

Kota is part Siamese so I know what that loud yowl sounds like! She is also very lovey and sweet but wont cry for attention, just loves when you pet her.

The chattering thing, I have never seen my cats do that but my old tabby cat that lives with my parents would do it all the time.
 

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Some behaviors you listed aren't restricted to Siamese - my cats are mixed, and they all chatter at birds, and other moving animals they can't get. They also used to wake us up at night, but lots of training later, they're very good about just sleeping with us in our bedroom, then playing downstairs when they wake up at 5am.

Like everyone's said, the loud different-sounding meow, now THAT is a Siamese-related trait. Ginza is only part Siamese, and he can talk very loudly. Sometimes it really sounds like he's asking a question. "NOOOOWWWW????" It's soooooo cute.

The thinner sleeker physique is a typical Siamese body type. My Ginza is that way, and other traits he has are: demands A LOT of affection, needs constant reassurance, and sticks to me like glue. He's very sensitive. He's also extremely intelligent. He can open cabinets, doors, and faucets. He likes to step on the handle to flush the toilet. Oh yeah, did I mention, VERY active? He's already 2 yrs old, and shows no sign of slowing down his kitten-like activity levels. :D
 

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Iwould have to say the same of both our boys. They were strays from our yard, and are probably "Heinz 57" as my dad says. Little Guy (Wittle) has a very loud voice and can be very demanding, especially at dinner time.............but he was the runt of his litter........which could explain that. Both of them exhibit all of the traits already noted. Coco is much quieter and has a tendancy to "meep" and he likes to do silent meows too.

They are both very intelligent, very affecionate, follow us everywhere, and very active for their age (they will be 2 in August). They have no intentions of ever being lap kitties............ :evil: .
 

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Yup, sounds like you have a Siamese :lol: I have known several, and Gaylord is half Siamese, and they are VERY loud, have a distinct meow, love to talk, need to be a part of EVERYTHING, and need attention all the time. I love them to death, but others may feel differently :D I have heard them be called the "dogs" of the cat world :lol: And, yes, they tend to be long and lean :)
 

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He is thinner than my other cats though... is this typical of siamese? He is quite long and thin.
I don't know anything about breed standards, but it seems every purebred siamese that I've known was thin, sleek, had a long tail, and thin legs.

Punky, unfortunately, did not inherit those qualities. She's short, has stubby legs, a small tail, and wide body. (poor girl, genetics didn't go her way. :wink: )

Elly, who may not look it, has siamese in her blood. She looked exactly like her mother, except her mom had bright blue eyes. I asked about mom, they said she was half siamese. While little Elly may not have any of the personality traits of a siamese, she's so long and thin, with the long tail and everything else I've noticed about siamese cats.
 

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The book The Complete Siamese by Sally Franklin describes the Siamese like this:

GENERAL TYPE STANDARD The Siamese Cat should be a beautiful balanced animal with head, ears and neck carried on a long svelte body, supported on fine legs and feet with a tail in proportion. The head and profile should be wedge-shaped, neither round nor pointed. The mask complete, connected by tracings with the ears (except in kittens), the eyes are clear brilliant blue; expression alert and intelligent.

HEAD – Long and well proportioned, carried upon an elegant neck, with width between the ears, narrowing in perfectly straight lines to a fine muzzle, with straight profile, strong chin and level bite.
EARS – Rather large and pricked, wide at base.
EYES – Oriental in shape and slanting towards the nose, but with width between.
BODY, LEGS AND FEET – Body medium in size, long and svelte. Legs proportionately slim, hind legs slightly higher than front legs, feet small and oval. The body, legs and feet should all be in proportion, given the whole a well-balanced appearance.
TAIL – Long and tapering, free from any kink.
POINTS – mask, ears, feet and tail dense and clearly defined colour, matching in basic colour on all points, showing clear contrast between points and body colour. Mask complete and (except in kittens) connected by tracings with the ears.
COAT – Very short and fine in texture, glossy and close-lying.
COLOUR – As per individual colour standars, any shading to appear on back and sides. Bib, chest and belly to be pale.
Any spelling errors are mine.
 

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All those traits describe Simon perfectly... he has a very long slim body. Long tail and legs. He is wonderfully marked, very Siamese.

However his hair is not short, it is longer than my other cats... I wouldnt call it long haired either, so I am sticking with medium haired.

Also are blue eyes a trait of Siamese? Simon has the most wonderfull blue eyes! They are very almond shaped, and the color of the bluest sky.
 

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Lilly, there's long haired ones too... the book I just got (today) has some pictures of a long haired siamese. Probably a breed with a long haired cat of some sort. It's VERY cute!

Got a picture of your darling?

Blue eyes is a typical Siamese treat, not seen them with any other color. They do come in different shades of blue. The book speaks of the eyes sometimes almost glow red in dusk light, which was something the original cats from Siam (Thailand) was famous for.
 

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It is so funny you said that! Just this evening Simon was sitting in the kitchen around dusk, when the light was getting very dim in the house. My daughter noticed his eyes were glowing red in the dim light. She thought they changed colors (she is 4, with a very good imagination) So we turned on the light to check, and of course they were as blue as ever.

I am going to try to get some photos up as soon as possible. I am working on buying a digital camera...however until I do I have to buy some film for the camera.. take pictures of the entire roll...get the film developed with a photo cd... load the photos into the computer...then upload them here to share. It can be a long proccess! Maybe I will go get my camera this week :wink: I hope to have photos up next week sometime.

edited due to my awfull spelling..and tendency to type way to fast. :wink:
 

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Lilly, I look forward to it!

In the book I spoke of there was a kitten that looked too funny, it was a mix (by accident) between a Chinchilla and a Siamese and it had REALLY long hair! It was under the section about new breeds, mostly about color, but I'm sure we might see other coats on the Siamese soon too.
 

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I dont mean to say his coat is very long... it isnt really that long at all. I just honestly thought Siamese all had very short hair, and as I dont know Simons heritage I dont know if he is 100% Siamese or not. Although I must say if he isnt he must be pretty close.

Your cats are so pretty in your signature. I love the white fur. Simon is more of a tan or kinda dusty brown color.. with smoky gray ears face feet and tail.

Thanks for all the suggestions! I will post photos soon. I intend to take some good photos of Jessy as well, since I do not have many good ones. Then I will have a signature made for myself.
 

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Lilly, the siamese kitten are born with totally white coat, they eventually get darker. They grow darker by age as well. So that my kittens seem a bit pale right now, will change since they can be very dark.

I really look forward to see your baby... If he's "smoky" it could be a blue point. Lilac is a bit fairer than "smoke". Darkest are the Seal point, next comes the chocolate point and then blue point.

Even if this webpage is in Swedish, you should be able to find out some different coloring of the Siamese.

http://hem.spray.se/bitzy/siames/siamesen.html

At the middle of the page there's the new color codes for siamese cats (with swedish names to the left, the code in the middle and the english names to the right). Then below that table of codes you'll see some pictures with different colors. SIA n is a Seal point for instance and SIA a is a blue point (the one I suspect Simon could be).
 

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Thanks! The page was a little dark, and hard to see. However Simon is defenatley either a Blue point or a Lilac(SIA c) point.

Earlier I saw Payge's signature with Envy and Chaos. Simon looks alot like Chaos in coloring. She said Chaos was a Lynx Point Siamese mix...I am not sure what that means. I am not very skilled in purebreed cats lol.

Thanks for all your help! I am more excited to be Simon's new family everday. He is a great cat!
 
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