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So, I got loved on by my cat...

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
A bit of background, first. I have two cats; one's a female, spayed, and the other, Samson, is a male, not neutered. I want to get him neutered, but I don't have a job and my husband thinks that male animals should keep their junk intact (long story...) so he refuses to pay for it.

Last night, Samson was meowing around as usual, that utterly ear-piercing "PRRRRROWROWRROWR" of his that makes everyone in the room stare at him. I sighed and told him to pipe down, and he jumped over onto my lap, catbutt in my face.

Joy.

I petted him, moving said catbutt /away/ from my face, and skritched the base of his tail because he likes that for some reason.

The little furface straddled my arm and I got /poked/ by something... yeah, I didn't look but I'm 99.9% sure it was /that/.

Thanks, kitty. :gag:

He's never tried to mate with Tracer, my female, but he does jam his nose fairly far under her tail until she slaps the crud out of him. He's 10-11 months old or so... I'm guessing this is just hormones and I NEED to find a place that'll nip this in the bud? I live in NE Oklahoma and am unfamiliar with any local societies that could help me out here.

It sucks. I mean, if Samson were to be ill, he'd get to go to the vet. My husband just doesn't believe in neutering. -.-
 
#2 ·
He likes being scratched at the base of his tail because it's arousing to him. Which is why he became... well... er... Aroused right after :p

He hasn't tried mating yet because he's still only a kitten, he's just starting to reach sexual maturity and once he does I'm sure your husband will change his tune quite fast. It's dangerous having an intact tom around. It's very easy for him to get lose and get into fights, he'll be much more aggressive and territorial, and if he smells a female in heat you aren't going to want anything to do with him. Not to mention the spraying that will likely start in order to mark his territory - i.e. your house.

Just did a quick google search of spay/neuter places in oklahoma. Haven't really looked at the websites too much or how close they might be but there's this on:

Spay Oklahoma

Which looks like it's saying 35$ for to neuter a cat, definitely not bad if it's close to you. They also have a lot of other spay/neuter clinics listed on their website so hopefully one is close to you. Honestly though, the most expensive place around here chargers about 80$ for a neuter, it isn't an expensive procedure, very non-invasive and male cats are pretty much ready to go the next day. If it's too much, try asking another family member if they might loan you the money and you can pay them back as you get can!

I mean... A neuter will be much cheaper than the injuries he could get if he gets out and gets into a fight with another tom cat (which is likely to happen), less of a hassle than having to deal with a spraying, aggressive cat (which is also likely to happen)... Just things you might want to mention to your husband if he gives you a hard time! Good luck, I hope you can find a place close to home!
 
#3 ·
In the meantime, I'll google some low-cost places where you can get your hubby fixed.....

:shock: :grin:
 
#8 ·
Would it make him more docile and less likely to stray? Sign me up!

When the cat starts spraying all your husband's clothes (and couches, and walls, and doors, and actual husband) wiht that REALLY intense in tact male scent... he may change his mind.
I told him that....a spraying male is one of the worst smells on this planet, but he's never had cats and doesn't believe me.

It's also important to note that in my experience with a number of young adult intact toms who have shown up on my farm, their aggressive and spraying behaviors often don't resolve even after neutering IF the cat is allowed to reach sexual maturity and develop such behaviors before the neuter. So timing is critical. The longer this boy remains intact, the more ingrained any tomcat behaviors will become.

And then, of course, there's the very real risk of testicular cancer as long as he has those bothersome testicles.

Laurie
He's an indoor kitty, but I don't want hm sneaking out or beating up Tracer either. I'll call up that Spay Oklahoma thingie (thank you for finding it) and see what they tell me. I wonder if I could maybe work for one of the shelters to help pay for it?
 
#6 · (Edited)
This was my thought too, but you never know. There was one time I met a guy - someone gave him my phone number to try to set us up - who had an unneutered male. He was completely nuts about his cat's "masculinity" saying how he is a "little man" and how he "satisfies himself with a blanket that has a little hole in it".

When he called me for the first time and found out I had a female (I still had Masha and she was still young then), he asked if she was spayed to which I replied "of course". He seemed upset because I guess he wanted her to mate with his cat, I told him there were plenty of kittens already. Then he asked me if my place smelled and I said no, he told me his did (I immediately felt sorry not just for his landlord as he was renting, but also for all the people with pets who'd not be able to rent from the same landlord as he'd be sure to introduce "no pets" policy after this guy moves out). Then I asked him if his cat sprayed, he asked me what I meant, and when I explained he denied it saying "he tried once, and then I had a talk with him and he stopped". Yeh, right...

We met once, one curious thing was that my spayed cat who was normally fearful of strangers was all over him. She smelled him, she rubbed herself on him, she was extra friendly with him. Beyond that - when I tried to talk with this guy about all the kittens in shelters on the phone, he was "yes, you are right, but you are wrong" and "my cat is listening to our conversation and thinking". Needless to say it didn't work out.

One thing I understood after this encounter is what "neuticles" are for: they are for a wife/girlfriend to neuter the cat and her man will be none the wiser.
 
#5 ·
It's also important to note that in my experience with a number of young adult intact toms who have shown up on my farm, their aggressive and spraying behaviors often don't resolve even after neutering IF the cat is allowed to reach sexual maturity and develop such behaviors before the neuter. So timing is critical. The longer this boy remains intact, the more ingrained any tomcat behaviors will become.

And then, of course, there's the very real risk of testicular cancer as long as he has those bothersome testicles.

Laurie
 
#7 ·
Oo LOL macho cat needs testicles.. Yeah. I know a few of those people. not male if it doesn't have ALL the bits. If you do decide on the implants. make sure you get him microchipped normally in his scruff and add that info. That way if he ever does get out and picked up, no one accidentally neuters his furry butt twice.
 
#11 ·
LOL still giggling over this one. I can't imagine Jack not being neutered. He was never the brightest bulb in the box, but he was like having a kitty thug in the house. The big, hulking neanderkitty, that followed Sherbert around and enforced his rule. Like having a kitty mafia hitman in the house. Can't imagine him pumping extra testosterone through that thick skull of his.

I say all this affectionately. since my neanderkitty is almost 20 now and much more mellow due to old age... mostly.. still got a raspy siamese voice he uses to intimidate the younger cats with.. The feline equivalent of "Get off my lawn yo little Brats!" :devil
 
#12 ·
Samson is already half-nuts (pardon the pun!) but my female keeps him pretty well in line... if he teases her too much, he gets smacked and cussed out in Cat.

I'm gonna call a few places Monday morning. I was thinking about maybe helping out at the no-kill shelter anyway, because I know you don't need training to help socialize homeless babies. And animals adore me for some reason. My issue.. I'd want to bring them all home with me and I just can't do that :D

Thank you everyone for your assistance.

-Faize, Tracer the Cranky, and Samson the Mad
 
#15 ·
I know a few guys who are like that about their dogs It's like the animal is a sexual extension of themselves.

We were lucky that the only tom we couldn't have neutered was a gem (vet thought his asthma was so bad when we adopted him that he couldn't cope with anaesthetic) - not aggressive and not a sprayer but even with that experience, I would ALWAYS have a male neutered if at all possible - it saves masses of problems for both the cat and the owner.
 
#16 ·
I know a few guys who are like that about their dogs It's like the animal is a sexual extension of themselves.
This. I have a customer who comes in regularly with an un-neutred Pitt. He's too worried to get the dog fixed, as his 'masculinity' would be gone. The dog is very sweet, but can be aggressive with puppies and other dogs who aren't fixed yet, male or female.

I also heard a story from one of our regulars, who takes their male mutt (fixed) to one of our local dog parks. A guy brought an unfixed male adult Great Dane to the park and this dog was so aggressive and trying to dominate all the other dogs, he kept his dog away when he saw him coming. Thats just not safe...

We were lucky that the only tom we couldn't have neutered was a gem (vet thought his asthma was so bad when we adopted him that he couldn't cope with anaesthetic) - not aggressive and not a sprayer but even with that experience, I would ALWAYS have a male neutered if at all possible - it saves masses of problems for both the cat and the owner.
Even for the urine smell alone I would always have a fixed male! I remember when I first brought Jules home at three months, and his pee was unbearable! I keep a clean litter box, but he went to use it, EVERYBODY knew, and I'd have to scoop immediately. Once he was fixed, his manly smell got a lot better, and now it's pretty much non-existent like the girls.

As far as being molested...well I've never experienced that! But Jules has humped two soft beds into trash-land, and he did try to get it on with Alice once about a month after he was fixed...Alice was very displeased...
 
#18 ·
Some breeders have suggested using liquid chlorophyll from health food stores to help with the "manly" intact male piddle smell. A couple drops in their water bowl and it turns a light light green. I am almost at that point with Simba.
 
#19 ·
Well, I called Second Chance and... Samson will be getting neutered Wednesday! It's only $25, which is incredibly cheap, so I made his appointment.

Ooh, I have to drop him off the night before, he's gonna freak out. It's really for his own good, though.

Yay!
 
#22 · (Edited by Moderator)
That is fantastic... such a great deal! :mrgreen: Yes, it really is for his own good... even if he isn't happy at the time! I hope Samson has a smooth and easy recovery! I know boys usually bounce back really quickly, even my girls were feeling great within a day or two.

I agree with Nicole.H... he will definitely enjoy living a life that isn't driven by hormones! :)