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Yes, I have one. I have been doing TNR with the feral cats in my neighborhood for a couple years now with great success. One of my Toms, who I call Hannibal (Lecter) because of the violence he uses to protect his territory (yes he's long been neutered), has always been very stand-offish and stayed far from me. He is very large, muscular, and wound up like an eight day clock - Always on High Alert, and really Herky-Jerky if you know what I mean. Anyway, after a couple years of staying clear of me he decides several days ago to come close and check me out. I sat with him for a long time petting him a little, and increasingly more as he got more comfortable with me. This went on for a couple days. Now he will sit outside of my windows - And he always knows what room of the house I am in.... Always! - Constantly crying, singing, yodeling, pleading and screaming for me to come outside and pet him. I come outside and he is on me like some kind of lunatic. I am certain I am the first person to ever touch him.

Starting last night, and continuing into today he is not satisfied with merely serenading me, but has taken to trying to break through the screens in my windows to get into my house. Every time my wife or I come in through the door he fights like crazy to get into the house.

I would let him in but I have two cats that are strictly indoor cats, and although not declawed, they are big cream-puffs and Hannibal would turn them into hamburger. I have seen him attack a couple other Toms and he gives no warning what-so-ever. He just speeds in for the kill.

I really like Hannibal but I am seriously afraid he is going to get into my house. His behavior is so intense and strange I would swear he had rabies except I have kept him current on his vaccines. I have been around cats my whole life and I have never met a cat this intense and focused. It is seriously like something from a Stephen King book.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!
 

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*blink-blink* Wow. I think all you could do is try to deter him from being so determined in his efforts. I mean, it sort of defeats the purpose of caring for him and working to get him sociable ... and when he finally *does* 'get it' ... he turns into instant-obsessive-stalker-kitty. Wow! You'd think after 4yrs that he'd be more gradual about changing his behavior instead of the light-switch-effect.
You'll have to walk a fine line ... one of keeping him interested in human contact but also making him keep enough distance for you and your personal cats to be safe and unmolested in your home.
I've never encountered something like this, so I have no clue how to advise you.
Good luck.
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I would change his name from Hannibal to Cujo. :shock:
 

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Have any of your cats met him thru the windows or doors? What is their reaction to him? We had a cat simular to him. He made friends with my cat and my sisters cat and we let him in for short periods of time which grew longer and longer. Now he is in 95% of the time and out 5%. Hes a big mush. But if any cat comes on his territory he is **** on wheels. Sounds simular to your guy. Maybe start slow intros with your kitties ~ baby steps and see how he does.
 

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Have any of your cats met him thru the windows or doors? What is their reaction to him? We had a cat simular to him. He made friends with my cat and my sisters cat and we let him in for short periods of time which grew longer and longer. Now he is in 95% of the time and out 5%. Hes a big mush. But if any cat comes on his territory he is **** on wheels. Sounds simular to your guy. Maybe start slow intros with your kitties ~ baby steps and see how he does.
Yeah, they've met - Trying to fight thru the screen at each other. If I wasn't there to put the window down they'd have that screen gone in like 30 seconds flat. They have been "trash talking" each other for a long time. If he ever got in it would be awful.
 

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Rats! He sounds like he really wants to come in and live with you but its understandable that it cant work unless he changes his territorial issues. Atleast he is open to your love and attention outside. He may surprise you one day and make another giant leap and accept your kitties... you are so wonderful to be TNRing the kitties in your area.
 

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Well I am sorry to say things are going from bad to worse. He is ever more focused on getting into our house certainly to displace my two indoor cats, and so he and I can live happily ever after... It's pretty near a fight every time we come in or out of the house.

The thought of putting him down makes me sick, and I have thought about maybe taking him to a very large national forest and letting him free - But I don't know how well he would do. It is my personal belief that the most cruel thing I could possibly do to him would be to put him in a cage for the rest of his life. After living in the wild that would be like prison, and I would sooner send him over the rainbow bridge.

I am desperate and I need help with this highly loving & affectionate time bomb.

If anyone had a barn that needed a cat he would be perfect - He's fixed and vaccinated, and... did I mention loving and affectionate?

I would make a long road trip to place him - Thanks!
 

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This is going to sound ridiculous, but it worked for one of our members in the UK a few years ago. Her husband "marked" the perimeter of the house with his urine. The cat never came back! I hope this works! :oops:

I so hope he finds a home. He sounds like a lovely cat.
 

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Well I am sorry to say things are going from bad to worse. He is ever more focused on getting into our house certainly to displace my two indoor cats, and so he and I can live happily ever after... It's pretty near a fight every time we come in or out of the house.

The thought of putting him down makes me sick, and I have thought about maybe taking him to a very large national forest and letting him free - But I don't know how well he would do. It is my personal belief that the most cruel thing I could possibly do to him would be to put him in a cage for the rest of his life. After living in the wild that would be like prison, and I would sooner send him over the rainbow bridge.

I am desperate and I need help with this highly loving & affectionate time bomb.

If anyone had a barn that needed a cat he would be perfect - He's fixed and vaccinated, and... did I mention loving and affectionate?

I would make a long road trip to place him - Thanks!
DO NOT DROP HIM OFF AT A NATIONAL FOREST UNLESS YOUD LIKE TO SEE HIM DIE A SLOW DEATH IN AGONY. This cat has no skills to survive there. He is not a wild animal taught by its mother to hunt and survive.

If you do move this cat to a barn there are ways of doing it. First off the people who own the barn have to agree to feed this cat and provide a place for it to keep warm and escape the winters. Cats CAN NOT survive on mousing. Its a myth. You will need to set up a large kennel and keep him there for a minimum of 4 weeks till it is use to the smells, sounds and activity in the barn. He has to learn this is where he is fed so he will return once he is released. Once you release him you have to understand he only has a 50/50 chance of surviving. Half the cats take off and try to find where they came from and die on the way horrible deaths. Placing a cat in a barn program should always be the last choice.

If I were you Id provide a warm place for him to survive outside at your residence. Feed him but just dont let him in with your cats. Yes he is a pain with his behavior. But cats do change their behavior. Give him a chance.

We have lots of colonies we manage and feed the cats and they co exist with others in the barns just fine. Never euthanize a cat just cuz he is an inconvience at the moment. Like people cats evolve. His behavior today might not be what it is a year from now. Just work with him.

contact your local TNR groups and see if they have a barn available. Put posters up at feed stores asking if someone has a barn that could provide a sweet semi feral cat a home. Put adds in horse magazines, vet offices, at rescues web pages, craig list. Dont give up on this guy. He deserves a chance of a happy life. You the one who can make this happen for him.
 

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I know this is highly frustrating for you, but he sounds like he's so in love with you, and I find that adorable. Definitely don't send him to a barn, forest, or put him down. Like Mitts & Tess said, cats are territorial, and he will probably find his way back to you or (more likely) die trying.

Have you ever heard of herbal remedies for cats? I know that there are some drops you can put in a cat's water to make him calm down, not want to fight, less of a bully, etc. This may allow him to coexist with your cats.
 

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DO NOT DROP HIM OFF AT A NATIONAL FOREST UNLESS YOUD LIKE TO SEE HIM DIE A SLOW DEATH IN AGONY. This cat has no skills to survive there. He is not a wild animal taught by its mother to hunt and survive.
Well, I am confused now. I just got off the phone with someone at Alley Cat Allies and they told me he would most likely fare quite well in a national forest. We can't say with certainty he wasn't taught to hunt by his mother - He's feral. He's been making it so far. I saw him for the first time about two years ago, and he was an adult then.

And just to clarify, I would never put him down - I was just saying that would be a better option than him being relegated to a cage the rest of his life. Neither of those two options is acceptable to me, but they have different degrees of badness.

I would love to work with him - I really like him - but if he manages to get into my house and tunes up my two indoor cats, it's going to make it very tough for me to continue with TNR - Not an easy sell to my wife.

The guy from Alley cat allies suggested I first work with the feral branch and see if I can't place him - I'm going to start there.
 

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I know this is highly frustrating for you, but he sounds like he's so in love with you, and I find that adorable. Definitely don't send him to a barn, forest, or put him down. Like Mitts & Tess said, cats are territorial, and he will probably find his way back to you or (more likely) die trying.

Have you ever heard of herbal remedies for cats? I know that there are some drops you can put in a cat's water to make him calm down, not want to fight, less of a bully, etc. This may allow him to coexist with your cats.
Yeah, he is in love with me, and that's not lost on me - I really like him. Maybe I might ask my vet if there is some cat prozac or something.
 

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Kitty prozac can take 3-4 weeks - or more - to begin working.
 

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First Im highly shocked that someone at Alley Cat Allies said that would be OK. Are they on crack! That is like throwing him out to fend in the wild. I cant even fathom the rational in them saying that.

I still would encourage you to find him a barn program with experienced TNR people who have done barn programs. I wish you lived near me so we could so this together and make the odds in his favor if he is relocated.

If you do go the barn route Id be glad to coach you step by step. I want to see the best for this sweet but fiesty guy!
 

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How well does it work on reducing aggression when it kicks in? I am seriously considering this if it doesn't break the bank.
The most expensive part of it was the vet exam. The meds are about $20 for two months, but that's a very low dose. Even $20 a month would be worth it, though. Gigi's only been on it since Saturday, and my vet said it could take 3-4 weeks before it works, and there's no guarantee that it will. It must be used in conjunction with behavior modification, too. It's not a fix-all and sometimes doesn't work.
 

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Well I won't claim to be an expert on TNR or cats. I would like to be but that is going to take a long time, and alot more experience. I just want to re-emphasize I do love my ferals, and especially Hannibal. I mean what he does, he does because he loves me, albeit he's over the top. I know I don't have the all answers and that's exactly why I am here asking. Trust me, I'm don't make important decisions quickly or without the facts.

There is nothing I would like more than to keep him - I have had him for two years now already. I begged my wife for a little time, and she agreed to the time frame it takes for the prozac to kick in. Thank God he made no attempt to break in last night.
 

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How are you going to daily pill this cat?

Another thought is this cat might be trying to get into your house because something has changed in its territory. Some type of threat to it or danger.

Not to be nit picky but you should change his name. Names have energy and purpose. I remember on a Dog Whisperer episode he changed an out of control dog's name that was El Diablo (which means the devil) to a new name for the same reason.
 

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Regarding Hannibal's name: Remember the great general from Carthage who, legend tells us, took elephants across the Alps to attack Rome? I don't like violence or war, but it's better than cannibalism! :) Perhaps you could think of him as that Hannibal.

I wish both you and Hannibal a great outcome.
 
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