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Tiger has always been on wellness chicken formula (grain free) since he was 3.
I am a freak when it comes to cat nutrition, I don't give our kitties corn, you don't see a lion chasing a bag of corn out in the wild then why in the heck do people feed their pets pure corn in that crappy kibble? I have learned this from you all by the way:smile:


About 4 months ago when we pulled the nasty old carpet is when I noticed he was licking too much, he started to lick his belly, then he got a few red bumps, he then started licking his paws, that caused bald spots with red bumps and has been getting worse, at the time, I switched tiger to venison and green pea formula by natural balance, venison is a novel source of protein, thinking maybe he had developed an allergy to it.. unfortunately that did nothing, no change, if anything it got worse!
Tiger is 7 years and 4 months old right now. My vet couldn't find anything wrong, all blood work came back impeccable so she referred me the the specialist, The vet wants to rule out a food allergy (although I don't believe that's the issue at all!) I do however appreciate the effort of not jumping into environmental testing as that's close to 3K.


He wants the food to be as natural as possible so tiger is now restricted to rabbit and pumpkin, The vet wouldn't allow me to purchase the Bravo basic formula which is grind rabbit, it comes in frozen form.
He expects me to get the real thing and boil it, OMG that is like so hard!!!

It's been 2 days and Tiger is miserable because he hates the food, I have him on primal rabbit nuggets, it is all organic, I don't have the guts to go for a skinned full rabbit:sad:, I did order the bravo basic formula.. but in the mean time the primal is gonna have to do, I couldn't get him to eat at all so I had to end up adding salt free green bean juice with a few green beans so I can mix the prednisone he was prescribed.
He did have a bacterial infection on the skin due to all the licking so he gave him a shot of convenia which he has to repeat in 2 weeks.

What do you all think? I am just so shocked, he never had any issues before, I am losing my mind!!!

Thank you for listening
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The Primal Rabbit should be fine. Ziwi Peak has all meat canned foods, Lamb and Venison, that you could try, he might like it better.
 

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Second, while I think it's great your vet is reaching for raw food as a possible help / solution to Tiger's problem, PLEASE do not feed your cat nothing but boiled rabbit. Rabbit is a very lean animal and is believed to contain comparatively low amounts of taurine, so offering it as a single food source is not a healthy option, never mind cooking it (which destroys nutrients!).
The point of a food trial is to have only one source of protein and it is only for 8 weeks. The vet is just trying to see if it's food allergies or not. Once they confirm this, then Hypertweeky will be able to try out more commercial food to see if Tiger has a reaction to it. And if it isn't food allergies, than he will be able to feed whatever he wants anyway.

Hypertweeky: Please keep up with your vet's recommendations. If you change food before the trial is up, you will need to start over and since you will have tried rabbit, you will a have to find another novel protein, which may end up being really expensive.
 

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Hi, Hypertweeky.

First, there are quite a few concerns around Convenia and you might not want to allow Tiger another shot of it. See Dr. Pierson's article: Convenia.

Second, while I think it's great your vet is reaching for raw food as a possible help / solution to Tiger's problem, PLEASE do not feed your cat nothing but boiled rabbit. Rabbit is a very lean animal and is believed to contain comparatively low amounts of taurine, so offering it as a single food source is not a healthy option, never mind cooking it (which destroys nutrients!).

I would think any of the commercial raw foods would be acceptable for ruling out food sensitivity issues, unless you'd like to go fully raw and begin a frankenprey schedule (Natural Diet Information Resources). Nature's Variety raw products are guaranteed pathogen-free, and Feline's Pride and Rad Cat are both fruit- and veggie-free.

Good luck with your boy! :love2

AC
Oh my gosh!!!
I am so glad to know the truth about Convenia, Tiger was given this shot in August and 2 days ago at the dermatologist, He is supposed to get one more in 2 weeks but he won't get getting it now!! It was "sold" to me as a miracle drug and I am SO mad that neither my vet or specialist told me about these risks:patback:patback
I still remember telling an ER vet 2 years ago, ABSOLUTELY NO METHACAM.

Oh my I am freaking about him now, I hope he is OK, I am going to be worried for the next 2 weeks!!

I already tried the natural balance venison and green pea formula but I appreciate the link:) as far as the diet, the specialist advised me that since Tiger has never had lamb, it is ok to switch him to it, so lamb and pumpkin that is, he hates the pumpkin though!
He loves broccoli and misses his lettuce a lot!!

Thank you for the good wishes, it's been a while since I last posted here!!!
 

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The point of a food trial is to have only one source of protein and it is only for 8 weeks. The vet is just trying to see if it's food allergies or not. Once they confirm this, then Hypertweeky will be able to try out more commercial food to see if Tiger has a reaction to it. And if it isn't food allergies, than he will be able to feed whatever he wants anyway.

Hypertweeky: Please keep up with your vet's recommendations. If you change food before the trial is up, you will need to start over and since you will have tried rabbit, you will a have to find another novel protein, which may end up being really expensive.
Yes, the vet did not suggest raw food, he wanted me to cook it but he wanted me to use the real deal, no frozen, not processed in any way shape or form.

Thank you for the support, it is always good to come here and get help!
The specialist said since Tiger has never eaten Lamb, I could do that along with the pumpkin, he did love the lamb boy!, I cooked it half way as instructed:), he started the trial tuesday night so we are not losing any crucial time so that should be good right?

The convenia shot has me worried though, I am so glad You guys told me, is prednisone OK? I heard is very safe for cats but I thought I'd ask!!

You guys are the best!!
 

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Thank you, Houdini. I do know what a food trial is. Understanding the difference between heavily-processed kibble and canned products and fresh, raw foods, and having a solid grasp on raw foods as they relate to feline nutrition, I stand by my recommendation.

AC
I appreciate the advice:) however Tiger has been eating natural balance and wellness, all grain free all his life.
No kibble or processed food for him, he is the kind of kitty that blocks (he did when he was 2:( )
It is a nice refresher!!
 

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I hope Tiger responds to the trial. Food allergies are so much easier to handle than environmental ones!

If you start with a new protein, just calculate the 8 weeks from the first day you tried the new one.

Also, Prednisone is good for your cat for now. It will stop the itching and the skin inflammation and will make him a lot happier. Side effects include an increase in appetite (he will be VERY hungry in a few days so control his food intake to avoid too much weight gain). Some cats also drink and urinate more.

Another side effect is gastro-intestinal upset (mostly vomiting, some diarrhea, blood in feces or black feces and anorexia). If Tiger shows ANY of these symptoms, call your vet, it could become serious.

Also, liver enzymes should be monitored regularly if he stays on it long term since it can affect the liver and some cats may become diabetic if they stay on it for years. If it does end-up being part of his regimen to keep his allergies under control, talk to your vet to set up a regular testing schedule.

This may seem like a lot, but please don't be scared of pred. It can really help make Tiger's life less miserable and happier.
 

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I hope Tiger responds to the trial. Food allergies are so much easier to handle than environmental ones!

If you start with a new protein, just calculate the 8 weeks from the first day you tried the new one.

Also, Prednisone is good for your cat for now. It will stop the itching and the skin inflammation and will make him a lot happier. Side effects include an increase in appetite (he will be VERY hungry in a few days so control his food intake to avoid too much weight gain). Some cats also drink and urinate more.

Another side effect is gastro-intestinal upset (mostly vomiting, some diarrhea, blood in feces or black feces and anorexia). If Tiger shows ANY of these symptoms, call your vet, it could become serious.

Also, liver enzymes should be monitored regularly if he stays on it long term since it can affect the liver and some cats may become diabetic if they stay on it for years. If it does end-up being part of his regimen to keep his allergies under control, talk to your vet to set up a regular testing schedule.

This may seem like a lot, but please don't be scared of pred. It can really help make Tiger's life less miserable and happier.
I am hoping that whatever caused the issue was an allergen that was in the environment and got out of control by licking excessively!, he has never had issues with food before.
The food trial is I believe for 8 weeks however he has a follow up appointment within a month.
My goal is to get him off the prednison when the time is right and hopefully he won't need it for the rest of his life, I don't like to medicate him, but you are right, the rash looks a look better and he is much happier.
On the hunger note, he is already very hungry, he nibbled on us (gently but his teeth are still sharp) and ran to the kitchen, knock down the trash can and everything.. so I made him a little more of lamb, while getting it out of the bag, he "stole" a nice chunk and ate it raw so who knows maybe after all he should be eating raw but for now, I am sticking to the trial and see what happens!

:) he is purring now and meowmie is very happy!
 

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Natural Balance and Wellness products are processed foods, and that he's been eating them all his life could potentially provoke a food sensitivity. (Glad to hear he's not eating kibble!)

Hopefully, whatever the cause, you'll be able to figure it out and correct it! :patback

AC
He is feeling much better already! I am actually considering just feeding the same kind of diet he is on right now, he really loves the lamb and once we figure out what's wrong, we could mix meats and add all of the other stuff:) we have 2 more girls, Hobs who is 18 and was raised on cheetos and kibble (not by me!) and has no health issues at all (she must really have very good genes I tell ya)and Lucie who will be 7 in November, my friend dropped her off while on vaca and never came back, she is hooked into kibble, I have been working on transition her but it isn't going too well, she is the McDonalds kitty!

Thank you for your support, I have missed this forum a lot!
 
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