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My cat is now 13 weeks and probably to young to consume bones in whole. I now use a butcher knife to cut up chicken wing bones to tiny pieces he can just swallow. Should I be doing this?

Eating bones is not just for the minerals he gets out of digesting them but also for his teeth when eating them right? At what age should I start feeding him the bones in whole and what?

Here's a list of meat products with bone I can buy at my supermarket:
Whole chicken wings
chicken middle wings
chicken drumsticks
chicken ribcase
chicken feet
pork spareribs

Could someone please comment on these kind of bones if I can feed them to my cat and at what age to start with them?
 

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Cutting up bones is dangerous IMO, and unnecessary. My kitten, Jonah, has been eating whole mice since 4 weeks and cornish game hen bone since 8 weeks.

I personally think that most chicken bones are way too big for cats. CAN they chew them some if they have to? Yes. But it's big bone for animals set up to deal with mouse, rat and songbird bone. C. game hen (really just small chickens) have thinner bones -- offer breast/rib and smash it a bit if you want but don't cut it up. He knows what size will go down. Just trust him to do it!
 

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I’ve never heard of bones becoming dangerous to a cat simply because they were pre-cracked. In fact, whacking bones is highly recommended as a good way to help a cat get started on bone-in meals. *shrug*

Paul, chicken bones are fine to feed. In fact, the vast majority of raw-fed cats are fed chicken bones; some even eat turkey necks and wings. To get your cat started on bone, you do want to start with the smallest, easiest bones you can find. Cornish hen bones (as Hoofmaiden mentioned) are good starter bones, as are chicken ribs and wing-tips.

Once your cat is good with those, you can move her up to the rest of the wing, as well as chicken necks and backs.

I wouldn’t give a cat a chicken drumstick with the expectation that she could crack that bone. There are cats out there that can and do, but I think they may be exceptions rather than the rule. Same goes for pork bones and chicken feet.

Hope that helps you! :wink:
 

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Allright :)

He does look awfully healthy! His fur looks great, his breath doesn't smell, never complaining and what he leaves behind in the litter tray is so much less and smells alot better then what my "wiskas cats" used to leave behind!

I'm just going to continue feeding him chopped middle wings and tips and ribcases... Untill I find some small poultry!
 

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Paul36 said:
...His fur looks great, his breath doesn't smell, never complaining and what he leaves behind in the litter tray is so much less and smells alot better then what my "wiskas cats" used to leave behind!...
You've just defined a raw-fed cat! :lol:

I actually kinda miss the tuna breath. But I guess I'm just weird like that. :roll:
 

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Paul36 said:
Allright but I can't get mice, rats, game hen or songbirds here so what do I feed him?!
Well, I wouldn't recommend songbirds!! Where do you live? Most of us order mice online and practically all grocery stores carry cornish game hen. :)
 

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I’ve never heard of bones becoming dangerous to a cat simply because they were pre-cracked. In fact, whacking bones is highly recommended as a good way to help a cat get started on bone-in meals. *shrug*
Sorry -- I didn't explain fully. I'm differentiating here b/t whacking a breast so the bone inside shatters a bit (and then the cat chews off pieces) and actually CUTTING it up into what the human perceives as "bite-sized" pieces. I don't think that whacking the breast should be necessary for long (and if it is, that means you're feeding bone that is way too big), but it's certainly a fine way to get them started. I just wouldn't recommend actually cutting the breast up.
 

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I'm dutch but I live in Thailand and I don't know about online mice stores nor would I be able to read their websites!

I bought him a chicken carcass yesterday, he can't eat the neck but he does eat the ribcase. I give him a piece of the ribcase every morning and the rest of the day I smash chicken wing bones into tiny little pieces he just has to swallow, mixed with beef, liver, heart and gizzard.
 

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My kitten Sabre was eating cornish game hen bones at 10 weeks old. He is now 5 1/2 months and can sort of handle whole chicken bones, but I don't try them often. I mostly feed him cornish game hen for bone content. Ribs from a cornish game hen should be no problem for your kitten, it's at least worth a try. And if it's needed don't cut bones up put the whole wing(or other part of the chicken) in a back and hit it with a hammer to just break up the bones a bit(with chicken meat still intact!!). The meat makes a nice protection around the bone. I never had any need to hammer bone for Sabre though, he really took right to it.


ETA: If you have to feed meat from full sized chickens, stick with bone in breast. The ribs are the easiest part for a kitten to eat. Sabre still doesn't finish off all of the bone from a wing or a drumstick so I wouldn't even bother with those for now.
 

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Paul36 said:
I'm dutch but I live in Thailand and I don't know about online mice stores nor would I be able to read their websites!

I bought him a chicken carcass yesterday, he can't eat the neck but he does eat the ribcase. I give him a piece of the ribcase every morning and the rest of the day I smash chicken wing bones into tiny little pieces he just has to swallow, mixed with beef, liver, heart and gizzard.
Hmmm, are you feeding Lucifer bones in every meal, Paul? If so, be careful not to exceed 10% of his diet, as too much bone could make the little guy constipated. (I only feed bone-in meals three times a week.)
 

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on http://rawfed.com/ I read it's ok to feed him meaty bones that are too large like pork or lamb ribs, he can strip off the meat providing a great dental workout. I don't have to worry about him breaking a tooth right? I presume they're smarter then that and it's only natural they will feed of larger prey left behind in nature every now and then...

My biggest concern is me cutting up the bones with the knife. I read this can leave really sharp edges because of the sharp blade I use which can be dangerous. The cut pieces of bone I feed him however are just the size of 1 or 2 pin-head's. Can pieces of sharp bone be dangerous in this size or does this warning for sharp edges only concern big pieces he'll try to swallow?
 

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Paul36 said:
on http://rawfed.com/ I read it's ok to feed him meaty bones that are too large like pork or lamb ribs, he can strip off the meat providing a great dental workout. I don't have to worry about him breaking a tooth right? I presume they're smarter then that and it's only natural they will feed of larger prey left behind in nature every now and then...

My biggest concern is me cutting up the bones with the knife. I read this can leave really sharp edges because of the sharp blade I use which can be dangerous. The cut pieces of bone I feed him however are just the size of 1 or 2 pin-head's. Can pieces of sharp bone be dangerous in this size or does this warning for sharp edges only concern big pieces he'll try to swallow?
I would think that pulling meat off bones that are way too big to eat would be fine, and even fun, for cats.

I'm not sure about your second question, though, as I haven't done a ton of research on this subject. The bones I find easiest to buy and feed are all within the comfort zone of my cats, so I don't break anything down for them, 'though I've read over and over that breaking them down is ok. I can't imagine that little bitty pieces like you describe would be an issue, but my gut feeling would be to go with the advice you received/read on yahoo. If the general consensus is approval (which I would expect), then I'd say go for it.

Hope this kinda wishy-washy reply is at least somewhat helpful! :D
 

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Yeah on the dutch raw food forum I read most people just grind up their menus in total 10kg a time and freeze it... Probably can't hurt him and hasn't for the past 10 days.

Besides I found him some small birds/qail on the market today. 2 for the equivalent of about 1 euro so still affordable. Will feed those in combination with chicken ribs as his bone diet.
 

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Yeah -- you don't really have to worry so much with cats about their breaking teeth on bones that are too big. They will just take the meat off and leave the bone. DOGS, now, you DO have to worry about, b/c dogs have a hard time saying, "I can't eat that." LOL! I do not give bones to my dogs larger than I know they can chew easily (i.e., no weight-bearing bones of large ungulates like cattle, etc.), but I do to the cats.
 
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