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I am really worried about Tyrael... update: saw the vet

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#1 ·
but the vet can not see him until 9am. (Here's the old thread: http://www.catforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=38015 )

To sum up, Tyrael has lost 2 pounds this year. He had his yearly exam on December 21st and the vet didn't notice anything that concerned her.

Over the last few weeks I changed him to a new type of food. He immediately started throwing up everything he ate - seemingly from a food allergy. At least, that's what the 2 vets we have talked to have thought.

I changed him to a different flavor of food, and he stopped throwing up, but he still looks like he is losing weight. He eats a lot less now, and I can't coax him to eat more. (He seemed to like the dry food more than the wet, but I was under the impression that he would eat less of the wet food because it was doing a better job of meeting his nutritional needs.)

We have been planning to take him to ANOTHER vet (this coming week) to have full bloodwork and urinalysis done to make sure there isn't something serious wrong with him... from a thyroid problem, some sort of infection, *gulp* cancer, or God knows what else.

Well, yesterday he started having diarrhea. I assumed that it was from the new flavored food. Today it has been getting worse... this afternoon I have had to take him into the bathroom and wash him every time he goes to the bathroom.

I have been researching online and read that it could be that he has an impacted hairball in his intestines... and it could be a "get him in for surgery" situation.

We got in touch with an emergency vet, they don't THINK it's an impaction, but I don't know if I believe them. That's really something that you can't diagnose over the phone. The vet was not really concerned because when he gets in the litter box he is able to pass something, even if it isn't a lot, and it is more often than I think is acceptable. (It has been 5 or 6 times since lunch.)

The vet said no more food until they see him, just water. He isn't a big fan of drinking water, so I normally add water to his wet food. I did get him to drink some water by dipping my fingers in the bowl and getting him to lick the water off my hand.

I also got him to play for a while, but I stopped him before he got too wound up because I didn't want to stress him.

I will be staying up tonight with him... every time he goes to the bathroom I have to wash him before he sits on anything. The emergency vet said we could call at 9am and have her meet us at the office then. You can bet that I will be calling her again before then (regardless of what time it is!) if I think Tyrael takes a turn for the worse.

His eyes still look good (read: he still looks like a little ****-raiser) and he isn't totally listless, he just seems tired. Then again, it's 12:30am here....
I guess that what I am saying is that he seems okay for the moment, I just really hope he stays that way until I get him in to the vet. Hopefully another 8 hours or so won't make too much of a difference.

I am kicking myself for talking to the vet over the phone earlier this week instead of running him right in when I first noticed he was acting odd... but with the food change, a lot of his actions seemed normal at the time.

His bottom is really getting irritated from the diarrhea and he is crying when I wash him, so I hope that he can go the rest of the night without incident.

He may sleep tonight... in fact, I hope he does. But I won't. :(
 
#2 ·
I'm sorry that Tyrael isn't feeling well...poor baby. Assuming he doesn't develop any other symptoms, I think he should be fine till the morning. But monitoring him through the night is a good idea. Hope this turns out to be something easily treated...
 
#3 ·
thank you.

He seems to be resting peacefully... he has stopped running to the litter box every few minutes, at least, for now.

I, on the other hand, am having a panic attack watching him breathe. Ack! It is sure going to be a long night.

I decided that I will be calling at 7 and asking the vet to come in early. Since I wanted to go in tonight, I think that's a reasonable compromise.

5 hours and 10 minutes to go. 8O
 
#4 ·
I went back and read your other thread (that I somehow missed chiming in on :lol: )...I don't think this latest situation is an impaction...that's usually an acute situation. This sounds like it's something related to the issues he's been having over the last few months. Weight loss and diarrhea (and vomiting) seem to be symptoms for just about every disease a cat can get...so no use speculating until you get some blood work done.

Do you know when the weight loss occurred? Was he fine until all the changes started happening, or was it gradual over the course of the year? How old is he? How much food is he eating a day?

Hang on...morning will come soon....
 
#5 ·
let me answer what I can here:

I am not certain when the weight loss occurred... only that it was within the past year. I don't regularly weigh these guys, and the change was gradual but became more noticeable recently.

He seemed fine until all the changes started happening, although at home (in NY) he would pee in the bath tub if I left the bathroom door open. The rest of the time he would use the cat box. He had a urinalysis and came back clean. When I moved to Quebec, he didn't go in the tub for the first two months, but then he started doing it because we were leaving the bathroom door open. I have been keeping it closed, but last night we must have left it open because he had diarrhea in the tub.

Tonight he was sort of straining in the litterbox, then ran into the bathroom and we grabbed him out of the tub before he could go in there. We brought him out and closed the door, and he went back and used the litter box again.

Tyrael is about 3 to 4 years old.

I give him about 3 oz of food in the morning, and another 3 at night, and he has been barely eating half of it. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

I am switching him back to Eagle Pack tomorrow, because he never had a problem with that.
 
#7 ·
this is killing me... I can't find a vet who will take my concerns seriously.

I am worried and the vet can't see him until 12:30 today... and said that I might want to wait until tomorrow because "it will cost less". (And yes, he is charging me an outrageous amount of money to see him on a Sunday.) :?

Tyrael has only been eating about one bite of food at meal time for the last 48 hours, he is drinking just a little bit, and he is running to the litter box once an hour... sometimes more.

The vet said he can look at him this afternoon, but that all he can really do is look at him and give him fluids if he thinks it is necessary... I will have to take him BACK in tomorrow for bloodwork, etc.

What the heck do I do? I can't stay up ANOTHER 24 hours with him... and I don't want to leave him unsupervised.

Any advice?

Please? :(
 
#8 ·
Morea, in the last thread you mentioned that he was having a full blood workup -- assuming that was done, what did it show? Did you get liver and kidney values? Sorry if I missed it, but how old is Tyrael?

I don't blame you for being concerned. The pics look like he still has a belly, but has lost weight on the sides. He could have lost some weight due to the diet change, but the vet should investigate to make sure there isn't something else going on.

I would plead with that emergency vet to take his blood, just so that can get started on it and you don't have to bring him back.

Good luck, and please keep us posted. I hope the poor little guy is OK.
 
#9 ·
There aren't any emergency vet clinics around, rather than a vet office? I would think in Montreal there would be 24 hour clinics available....are you outside the city? You may have to go to the city.

I dug around a little bit...

The Univeristy of Montreal has an emergency clinic, but the website was in French.

Here's another site in English:

http://vet.qc.ca/en/index.htm

I'll continue to look....I'd be uncomfortable about letting this go till tomorrow too....
 
#11 ·
this IS the "emergency vet" advertised in the yellow pages. I am about 3 hours drive from Montreal.

The weird thing is that Tyrael is acting a lot better now... he seems fine, fine enough that part of me says "he shouldn't have any trouble waiting until tomorrow"... but I won't.

I want to make sure that I get the vet's opinion on his weight and what could be responsible for the seemingly sudden loss. I mentioned it to the other vet I went to, and she said that he looked healthy. He has lost more weight since then. I can feel his ribs and backbone and that scares me.

I also want the vet to make the call as to whether he is dehydrated and needs fluids. I am hoping that the vet can give him something for the discomfort, too... he is all red and sensitive from the diarrhea, and he cries and struggles when I try to clean him off after using the box.

Lisa: The reason they can't take bloodwork today is that there are no labs open, and the vet said that the blood shouldn't be drawn today if it can't be tested until tomorrow. His blood work has not been run yet, the post where I mentioned it was about a week ago, and he was under so much stress from the food change (throwing up badly) that I wanted to give him a few days before dragging him back to the vet. That may have been a miscalculation or a poor assumption on my part, but it seemed logical to me based on observing him at the time.

Tyrael is only 3-4 years old.
 
#12 ·
I can see why you waited on the tests and didn't want to stress him out further. Don't feel bad for not doing the tests sooner -- hindsight is 20/20. I'm sure you made the best choice for your cat -- you know him better than anyone :)

I see about the blood work having to wait. What a pain :(

I'm glad to hear that he seems perkier. But I agree with your wanting to go the vet today. Hopefully they can help make him more comfortable from the diarrhea, and they'll be able to tell if he's dehydrated.

((((hugs))))

Hang in there. I'll keep you both in my thoughts. Let us know how it goes at the vet.
 
#14 ·
Wow doesn't sound like much of an emergency vet if they can't run their own bloodwork or have a place where they can get it done outside of regular hours :? . Well at least having him seen will make you feel better that he isn't in any imminent danger, which is what you need to know.

Glad to hear he's feeling a bit better....keep us posted....
 
#15 ·
ok, this time things went much better. I saw a different doctor at the same hospital I went to before. He listened to me, took my concerns seriously, and was mercifully fluent in english. I didn't feel like I had to
"prompt" him about what was wrong or what should be done like I have had to do with some vets. Thank goodness, that is an awful feeling.

Tyrael was 10.4 pounds on December 21, and today he was only 9.6 pounds - the vet said that he is not concerned with the weight Tyrael is at now, but he IS concerned with how much weight he had lost. (obviously!)

The vet checked and said that there is no sign of obstruction (thank God!) and that from the symptoms and the stool sample I brought in he thinks that Tyrael is suffering from colitis. He said that he is nauseaous and that's why he hasn't been eating, and that his large intestine is irritated and producing mucus. That's also causing cramping, which is why he keeps going to the litter box, even though there isn't really anything for him to void.

He said that Tyrael is in no immediate danger, which really put my mind at ease. He gave him an injection that was supposed to help reduce the inflammation in his bowels, and also some pills to take.

Tomorrow morning he is having me bring Tyrael back in to draw blood for his full blood panel, and I am also going to bring in a urine sample for a urinalysis. (He suggested waiting until tomorrow because there are only 13 results that they can get in the office on weekends, vs 30 they can get when their lab is open during the week... and since it is not an emergency situation, it's worth the wait.

In the mean time, we have some peace of mind and Tyrael will have some relief from the discomfort he has been having the past few days.

Hopefully, this will be a speedy recovery. And now I have a vet that I trust, which is a great relief too.
 
#16 ·
Glad to hear you're getting some attention for this. The colitis explanation is pretty much as expected....but what you need to know is what is causing the weight loss and the probably related colitis. Hopefully the bloodwork will shed some light...
 
#18 ·
Morea: I just kind of zipped through this thread quickly, but we've been to this emergency vet before, and they were very good.

http://www.centredmv.com/fr/

Unfortunately their English site isn't up yet. They're near the airport in west Montreal. I know you mentioned that you found a vet you like now, but I thought I'd mention it to you just in case!

And I hope Tyrael feels better soon!
 
#20 ·
I'm glad that this vet seemed more helpful and that it doesn't seem to be an "emergency"

Hopefully they blood work will shed some light on the weight loss. Did he say if the weight loss could be related to the condition (colitis)?
 
#21 ·
at least in part, it is possible... but he wants to rule out any other possible (and more serious) causes.

Tyrael is also a very anxious cat, and I am sure that the stress we went through over the past year didn't do him any good.

It's such a relief to know that it isn't a critical emergency situation.

I'll have the blood work, urinalysis, and fecal exam results hopefully within the next few days. Here's hoping that it is something simple to resolve so he can get back to normal as soon as possible!
 
#22 ·
I can imagine this must have been very scary for the two of you, especially seeing your boy so uncomfortable. I hope that nothing serious is found on the blood work and am glad that this did not turn out to be a true emergency. It is wonderful that you were able to find a vet that is fluent in English, what a bonus! We are rooting for Tyrael over here, so hopefully he is feeling better soon.